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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-17

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-17


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-17

    Posted: 16 May 2021 09:01 PM PDT

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    First Post Vaccination Gym Workout

    Posted: 17 May 2021 08:32 AM PDT

    I had been half-assedly working out at home but now that I'm fully vaccinated and CDC says it's OK to: I went to the gym for the first time in more than a year!

    Here are some general observations:

    • I didn't know how to check-in at my gym anymore. They went touchless check-in. The gym also extended my membership by an entire year for free. Thanks gym!
    • The water fountains are all turned off. Everyone is wearing a mask, except for a few noses peeking out and in the locker room where nobody was wearing a mask. Breathing through a mask was not noticeably different, considering I'd been wearing a mask for a year and gotten pretty used to it. (edit: I take it back. Second workout I was gassed from the mask. The mask was pumping in and out of my face like a pump. I think I breathe harder subsequent workouts back.)
    • The gym is about 1/2 as crowded as it used to be.
    • About 2/3 of the way through my normal workout routine, I felt really gassed. My body was not used to only resting 1:30 (during my home workout, I would often rest longer than 3 minutes between sets, with rotating exercises, because I would eff around with home stuff.)
    • Because my home workout didn't involve barbells and the only thing I really had to grip was pull-ups, my grip strength was toasted after the workout.
    • I am sore already. Pre-lockdown I rarely was sore after a workout, just weak.
    • I workout more efficiently at the gym. With people waiting for equipment, I tend to fuck around a lot less.

    Specific observations:

    • Shrimp Squats: Shockingly, my ground level intermediate shrimp squats carried over well to deficit intermediate shrimp squats. My reps had decreased but my negatives felt less creaky than before lockdown. Go figure.
    • Dead Lift: I had been doing bodyweight one legged dead lifts. Not surprisingly, when I went back weighted deadlift, my lower body felt fine but my core and upper body felt off. Not surprising since bodyweight one legged dead lifts challenge the lower body while the upper body is just hanging out. Barbell deadlifts are a full body exercise.
    • Pull-Ups: I restarted my experiment doing kneeling on one leg, one armed cable pull-downs to see if it translates to OAP. I had been doing pull-ups at home, so while I was definitely weaker, not too bad.
    • Pike Push-Ups: Oh boy, I lost a lot of strength. I couldn't even do one rep with my old setup. I had to move my hands further from my feet a lot. At home, I was doing them kneeling on my stairs, and I think the angles and weight on my legs is much different from real pike push-ups. I should have spent more time doing real pike push-ups at home instead of stair pike push-ups.
    • Horizontal Rows: At home I was doing half-lay horizontal rows on rings, at the gym I went back to straight body bar horizontal rows. Felt OK except I was very tired overall (CNS wise.)
    • Push-Ups: I just did the same push-up routine as I did at home. No change. I really need to up my horizontal push game. Maybe I'll switch to bench press or weighted push-ups or ring push ups.

    It felt good to go back.

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    After 5 years of training and dissapointing loggers, I made one with us in mind

    Posted: 16 May 2021 12:58 PM PDT

    Hey bros,

    I've been doing callisthenics / bodybuilding for the past 5 years. During this time, I've always tracked my workouts. I started with a physical notebook, using excel sheets, then moved to smartphone apps, and never managed to find something I was genuinely happy with.

    Seeing as I'm also a software developer, I decided to create my own app based on my specific training needs (and not what some over-commercialized amateur app thinks they are). I also added other features I found useful while training on a day-today and while asking my training mates for their feedback.

    Thus, since the pandemic started, I've been developing a exercise logger app for people like us in mind and I wanted to share it with you in case you also find it useful. It's actually completely free and has no ads. I built it and use it for my own training. I'm quite curious to know what you think about it.

    You can use the web app https://myworkinprogress.app/

    or get it directly at the Play Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.myworkinprogress.twa (note: an internet connection is needed. Full online support coming soon).

    No iOS support yet, but it's coming.

    ---

    Here are some things I focused on while making the app:

    - Ability to create my own custom routines (no pre-made routine stuff, I prefer to build my own routines and exercises).

    - Log my sets and have a see graphs/statistics of my progress for the specific exercise I'm training at that moment. The graphs show you your reps, weight, volume, max reps per weight, and more. It also lets you log RPE/RIR. Lastly, it always shows you your current PR in the logger, so you always have your max in mind.

    - Get useful statistics and graphs about my current workout, like total volume, duration, ability to add comments, and more.

    - I wanted to create specific goals for reaching certain lifting targets. For instance, reaching 100 reps in pull ups: 50 reps on day X, 55 on day Y, 60 on day Z, till I reached 100 on the deadline, etc. These goals then show up during my workouts so I can work on them and keep my goal in mind.

    - Most importantly, I wanted something simple. No bloated stuff, and no screens begging me to upgrade to a premium plan.

    I'd be happy to hear any feedback you have! I'm continuously improving it according to my training needs.

    Disclaimer: Hope it's ok to post this here. There is no monetary incentive for me or anyone to people downloading the app. I just built it out of my own need and to improve my programming skills, and sharing now in case it may also be useful for others.

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    Getting ripped with MindfulMover's Big 5

    Posted: 17 May 2021 05:33 AM PDT

    Sorry to bother again if u are seeing this mr n mrs mindful 😆 u/mindfulmover.

    Im now fully following the big 5 progressions and am really excited about it! (See https://youtu.be/tyawYQ30qmY)

    I know it will be optimal for gains carry over, towards other exercises.

    Btw im also sooo tempted by the idea of cutting my cardio down to once a week (the sprint dropsets u talk of in https://youtu.be/3rVFshHu21Q).

    The only thing that i wondered if u have any perspective on is, how is this regime for helping me to get ripped?

    I was thinking i will do the big 5 almost daily for now until i reach my body fat goal and i also do cardio every other day (alternating between 20 min hiit run or a 20min kettlebell workout)

    For context, I've been on a journey to try and get ripped for the last 2-3 years. i am aware of cut and bulk cycles and have just completed my very first one and definitely see that i am more lean as a result now! (lost 28kg and have now put 7kg back on but there is still stubborn fat im slowly trying to lose).

    Would it be good to continue as i am for now until the stubborn fats are gone OR could i look to reduce to 1 or 2 workouts a week straight away and just make sure i reduce my calories for the reduction in activity?

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    Necessary to train obliques specifically?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 06:42 AM PDT

    Hi all,

    Been at bodyweight training for about a year and a half now and have kinda moved away from the RR towards an U/L split doing about 5 exercises per upper body session - vertical and horizontal pulling, vertical and horizontal pushing, and then usually either kneeling ab wheel rollouts or dragon flags or hollow body holds depending on how I'm feeling.

    With this setup, I don't think I ever train my obliques specifically - I guess the ab wheel requires stabilization, so it's not 0, but do you all think it's good practice to occasionally do things like side planks or pallof presses for long term health?

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    Elevated Pike push ups: struggle to mantain the correct form

    Posted: 17 May 2021 10:57 AM PDT

    Hello everybody, I need help With elevated Pike push ups. I'm able to do 4 sets of 12 normal pike push ups, with a form that I consider overall correct, even if I know I should tuck my elbows in a little more. Some days ago I tried to perform elevated Pike push ups, but I couldn't find the correct form: -of course, I can't think of assuming the same "/\" form of the normal pike push ups, because of anatomic reason, so the distance between feet and hands must be bigger -but by doing this, the "pike" push ups nearly resemble a normal elevated push up, With my ass up high.

    Moreover, every time I lower myself I nearly fall over my head.

    I know that with that description you may have a hard time understanding my difficulties, but do you have any tips or hints?

    Thank you, please excuse my English.

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    Lat imbalance

    Posted: 17 May 2021 10:54 AM PDT

    Problem with dips and pull-ups

    Posted: 17 May 2021 10:30 AM PDT

    For the past 2 months, my progress in dips and pull-ups has stoped and I think it's because I do too little and expect too much.

    I do something like this:

    Monday:

    5 sets of 7 pull-ups with 60 seconds of rest.

    Tuesday:

    5 sets of 25 squats with 60 seconds of rest. + Running 3-5 km.

    Wednesday:

    5 sets of 9 dips with 2 minutes of rest.

    Thursday:

    5 sets of 25 squats with 60 seconds of rest. + Running 3-5km

    Friday:

    5 sets of 7 pull-upd with 60 seconds of rest.

    Etc.

    Should I start doing dips and pull-ups on the same day? How many sets should I do? Should I add more exercises? Should I do more sets?

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    Is this a case of anterior pelvic twist?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 10:23 AM PDT

    So till around 2 years back, I used to weigh around 76 - 77 kilos. However I slowly started gaining weight and I noticed my back kinda started arching. I always thought it's a result of my belly popping out and it'll be straight or normal back again once I lose the belly fat. So earlier this year I started working out and reduced my weight from around 89 to 78 but my back isn't making any progress. It almost looks the way it used to when I was at 89.

    Here's a pic

    Also I do have trouble holding bridges high enough and during some of my abs workouts like planks or hip thrusts,I experience a pressure on my back rather than my abs.

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    Gaining size but no strength

    Posted: 17 May 2021 09:55 AM PDT

    Hey friend, I hope you are well. I am 5'9.5, currently 162 pounds, I was 153 pounds before I started lifting. I am well versed when it comes to fitness, I have never fully devoted myself to working out however. I started lifting a month ago, I have increased the size of my arms and chest whilst strengthening my legs (no visible gain but strength gain is definitely there). I gained strength very rapidly (happens when you begin to work your muscles for the first time) and I hit a bit of a plateau. I moved up from benching 10 pounds (each side of 45 lb barbell) to 25. I was struggling with 25 but quickly started being able to be stable with the bar and complete more controlled sets. I can now bench 35 lbs, and can bench 45 lbs 4-5 times. I only started lifting a month and a half ago. My question is, in the past two weeks I have seen a noticable gain in my chest and arms, yet still struggle with 35 pounds. I work out once or twice a week, so I am thankful for my gains, however, I increased my mass from 160-164 in the past two weeks yet my bench is still just as strong as it was two weeks ago. With the gains going to my arms and chest (which can clearly be seen) I do not understand why my bench has not somewhat improved. Please share your expertise, thanks and have a great day!

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    I've done all I know to do, and don't know what to try now.

    Posted: 17 May 2021 09:52 AM PDT

    Like a lot of people I used to be fairly obese and have gotten into better shape. However I've hit a Plato, and been there for about a year or 2 now.

    I have tried cold showers, 4 mile runs 3 days a week, weight lifting, intermittent fasting, low sugar diets, low saturated fat diets, Body weight exercises (duh), and a few other things like vitamins and creatine.

    I still have a stomach, I look like I have a dad bod. I've just about healed up from a surgery and I'm ready to give my goal another go. But I don't know what to do. I'm 20 5'6" and like 210 pounds.

    I just want a flat stomach and a healthy weight. I don't want to be a bother, seem lazy or look like I'm complaining. But I genuinely don't know what to do anymore. I would just appreciate some suggestions.

    Edit 1: thanks for the suggestions so quickly, I usually eat fairly low cal though. I have a banana and milk for breakfast a ham sandwich I make for lunch, then chicken and veggies for dinner. Although I will try the scale suggestion, maybe I've been eating with a large portion size, thanks again.

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    Leg routine lead to muscle imbalance?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 06:05 AM PDT

    Hey, doing this routine now for half a year, i could see results on my legs with it n progressed also with weights/reps:

    2x week: Deadlifts: 3x8r(plus 2 warm up sets) now on 90kg incl. bar Bulg. Split squats: 3x8r with dumbbells(each 14kg) At the end: Sissy quats paired with full bridges

    Plus 2x week running 7km

    So some weeks ago i started to feel that my legs/knees tend to move inwards, or lets say i feel it while standing that they re trying to. There s definitely a pull happening, which i didnt notice before. While deadlifting i have no issue to keep the knees to the outside, they re not tending to go inwards.

    Any ideas which exercise might cause that imbalance and how to counteract? Thanks for any advice!

    Shimlah

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    Mathew Zlat Program

    Posted: 17 May 2021 09:44 AM PDT

    Few weeks ago I purchased His Ultimate program from him off IG.

    Had to make an account just to buy because I personally don't do social media.

    This platform is good to read and learn from other people since I only workout at home and don't go to gyms as well.

    Thank you to all who post good content!!

    Anyways. I started this on friday the 7th

    Started with 25lbs and now I'm at 47.5lbs on dips and pulls in just 5 workouts 💪

    I recommend buying it from him if you can afford it. I'm at his novice stage to get my max #'s. Before progression in his program.

    I own 255lbs of plates and willing to put them to use in lifts.

    He's got a lot of knowledge for somebody so young and a current world record holder.

    Good day

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    Should I be looking for weight gain as well as muscle mass gains? Need some advice regarding calorie intake.

    Posted: 17 May 2021 09:44 AM PDT

    Hey everyone. I'm 24, 5'9" and somewhere between 145-150lbs. I've been doing the minimalist routine 3x week since early feb. and have been moving up in difficulty. Currently doing 3x8 Bulgarian split squats, Psuedo planche PUs, archer ring rows, shoulder taps.

    I've definitely noticed increases in muscle mass (shoulders, back, arms, legs) and obviously strength due to the progressions. Currently eating ~2870cals a day due to MFP recommendations. I haven't seen any really noticeable increase in weight, so I'm wondering if I should put any focus on that as well? I've been on the r/gainit sub and I know some folks there go hard as hell. Considering bumping calories up again but unsure if it's the right move. Any advice would be great :)

    Current progress pic (Slightly nsfw, no nudity) don't have many before pictures

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    How to drop down from a muscle up?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 12:08 AM PDT

    So I've done about 10 muscle ups already. Started looking terribly but I improved it with time.
    Only part that's still problematic for me is the drop down.
    I'm a really skinny guy, weighing 50kg at 1.73 cm, so I don't have much muscle to control the weight; What that's causing is my torso to swing a bit too fast too far out when I drop and that slightly injures me every time I do the move.
    Is there something that I can do to eliminate the pain form the drop or do I just need to develop more strength before I continue practicing it?

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    Pullups using rotating pullup handles, any negative from just using these?

    Posted: 16 May 2021 04:01 PM PDT

    I'm getting back into pullups (which at 240lbs aren't especially fun) but have discovered that using the handles from my freemotion crossover and looping them over the bar is saving my shoulders a ton of post-pullup pain

    My only concern is that it's somehow losing training effect vs using the pronated straight bar on my rack. I don't imagine it is, but checking in if anyone else with middle aged shoulders is a fan of the rotating grips vs the straight bar?

    Goal is to try to get back to 10 reps with a 45, it's a great motivation to shed some quarantine poundage I must say.

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    Convict Conditioning - Horiztonal Rows

    Posted: 16 May 2021 05:00 PM PDT

    So I've been doing convict conditioning for a few months, been serious about it for maybe a month. At the start I was only able to do 3 x 8 Horizontal Rows with the bar set to hip height and I've reach 1 x 20, 1 x 16, 1 x 12 now but I've decide to use my rings and well I can't even get 1 x 8 with the rings at my hip heigh LOL

    I can't understand why. Because those reps on the bar I didn't count my rep unless my chest touched the bar and with the rings I can't get my thumb to touch my chest after the 6th rep, why?

    Anyone else experience something similar?

    Should I continue on the bar or continue getting stronger at the rings?

    Whats your opinion?

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    I need an opinion regarding home workout I am doing...

    Posted: 16 May 2021 01:07 PM PDT

    hi, I am male/31, 5'8'' 140 Pounds, about 18%-20% body fat, starting a lean bulk with 10% surplus,

    I cant go to the gym for diffrent reasons,so here is what I do at home:

    3 times a week,

    weighted pull ups X3

    weighted chin ups X2

    weighted push ups X5

    lateral raises X4

    dumble bicep curls X2

    dumble tricep press extenstion X2

    (I dont do deadlifts and squats because I have lower back chronic pain, so I really prefer to keep my back straight when working out)

    I assume this workout is not the best it can be, but still is it good enough to gain size and muscle?would you recommend to change or add something in the limits of "home workout"?

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    Strategy for most pullups in 10 minutes

    Posted: 16 May 2021 01:23 PM PDT

    Hey all,

    this summer me and my brother organise a competition of sorts for ourselves we go head to head in different sports. Wanted to ask this wholesome community for the opinion.

    Among many other events we do max pullups (1 set) and most pushups (proper form) done in 10 minutes. And I want to crush him - despite a sporsmanlike and friendly atmosphere lol. If anybody has done a similar test and has some insight for how to best prepare, I'm very interested.

    The first one is rather straight forward to prepare to, I've been wondering about pushups though. We will do the 'events' subsequently over a ~2-month period so there is some time to prepare specifically for the task at hand.

    1) Preparation

    I will for sure involve some gtg/high volume pushup training before the test. I won't ditch my regular routine and other stuff, maybe decrease other push exercises' volume, but I will do tons of pushups to build some endurance. I think a ~2 week period is reasonable, we have many other stuff so I won't obsess over pushups for months.

    2) Execution

    I think the plan should be to not go even close to failure in the first 5-6 minutes. I've done a mock test and I started with too big a set, got fatigued too quickly. 10 minutes feels more like a pushup marathon.

    I will obviously experiment and play around with different approaches, but I think starting with ~1/4 of 1 set max and then successively shaving off a rep here and there over time seems reasonable. Finishing with sets of 3-5 near failure. Once again, insight would be much appreciated.

    It's a little different than just max pushups so I think there is more to the preparation than it might first occur. Anyways, thanks for the replies and a good day to y'all.

    EDIT: Oh god. Meant PUSHUPS in the title. Kill me guys. I guess the scheme is analogous.

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    What are the benefits for us

    Posted: 16 May 2021 04:04 PM PDT

    If some of us(beginners) want to achieve statics(Statics require strength) and we rest 3 min between sets for maximal muscle growth..... Yea ,we get bit more on size(bigger muscle=stronger muscle), is that pushing us towards goals(statics)??

    Because if someone trains endurance and rests little between sets he wont build much strength ( statics require strength).

    But guy who can do 20 pull ups will beat guy with 12 pull ups max in any categorie(max reps and weighted pull up max rep/s )? So what are even the benefits if training and resting for size and bit strength?

    So should I train strength and shoot for max muscle growth if my long term goals are statics?

    Or enduranace which will increase my max reps and my weighted 1 rep max ???

    I see benefits only from endurance and I am whole time training with 3-3.5 rest times and 2 reps in reserve for size.

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