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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-18

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-18


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-18

    Posted: 17 May 2021 09:01 PM PDT

    Welcome to the /r/bodyweightfitness daily discussion thread!

    Feel free to post beginner questions or just about anything that's on your mind related to fitness!

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    • Read the FAQ as your question may be answered there already.
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    I had a powerful insight about the importance of working out

    Posted: 18 May 2021 12:25 AM PDT

    Usually when talking about working out and basically any form of physical excersise people really focus on the results. The reason for someone doing something is the end result, everyone has goals and the purpose of working out is almost always achieving those goals. But I noticed that means that you don't work out because you necessarily like doing it, you work out because lets say you want to achieve a certain physique.

    Thats why a lot of people lack the motivation to continue practising this hobby or simply don't start at all. Thats really different from other types of hobbies where the activity itself is pleasurable enough that you don't care much about goals.

    I always though that I too focus solely on the results - getting stronger, achieving a certain move. But I just realised thats far from it.

    Recently in my life a series of events made me seriously doubt my self worth. And soon after I got ill and couldn't work out or even eat properly for a few weeks. I lost a couple of kg of muscle mass and I felt terrible.

    But then when I got well I was able to work out again. And boy did that magically fix my mental health issues instantly. I didn't care about results. I didn't care I lost quite some strenght and now was pretty far from my goals. All that mattered was that working out was cool and people who do it are cool and if Im doing it too then that means Im cool too, even if just a little bit.

    I realised that all this time my workout sessions were not only strenghtening my body but shielding me from all my insecurities and preserving my self worth.

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    What is responsible for a posterior pelvic tilt and how to correct it?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 11:45 PM PDT

    Just to make things clear:

    I am 29M (69Kg, 5'9"). Have been sedentary except for occasional chores/cycling to the department, market, etc for the last decade. Since the lockdown for the past 1 year or so symptoms of slight back pain has started. Lockdown has restricted movement more.

    Needless to say, I am working from home with a laptop placed at the correct height. But still, my posture is fucked. When I sit I have a round back. I cannot sit up straight for even 2 minutes without arm supported chairs.

    My core is weak as you have guessed. Squishy and all with a soft beer belly kind of thing. Not tight. I can't touch my toes. When I do deadbugs I can tighten my lower ab region. But strength in my upper ab region below the ribcage seems absent. I can't squeeze that part much effectively.

    I am guessing I have weak and tight hamstrings. May be glutes, too. I cannot sit in an L position with a perfect 90 degree. I have to lean back on some surface. I feel is in my hamstrings and calf.

    I have heard people who sit too long has APT. But I think I have PPT (posterior pelvic tilt). I see no curvature in my lower back. When I consciously try to create a lumbar arch I feel my lower body is released from some previous tension and I feel nice. But again I fall back to the round posture. *NSFW* sometimes during straining while pooping I get a sore lower back which worsens if I sit at work after that. If I lie down for sometime the pain is gone. It is a muscle pain as my doctor says and I can feel it too. Glute area. The junction where glutes tie to the tail bone.

    I have started the BWF primer routine by u/Captain_Nachos for a couple of weeks. Am I going down the correct path? Is there any specific muscle/movement I should focus on to strengthen my lower back if that is the problem? Infact, let me be outright honest. What is the problem exactly. Why does PPT happen and how to correct it? Should I focus on high rep workouts rather?

    I focused on BWF primer rather than the RR because after so many years, starting out, RR intimidates me. I want effective, short and doable workout routine that I can do almost daily (5 to 6 days) to build the habit. My goal is general health and fitness. I am happy with that. I want to build a lean pain free body that's all.

    PTs and others can you please weigh in with your kind suggestions?

    Edit: 1. I don't feel pain while pooping. I may have written it badly.I get exhausted after pooping. And that exhaustion comes for core and lower back because I can feel the relaxing state when I lie down.

    1. I get butt wink when I squat deep enough. I noticed today in a mirror.
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    Is it normal to not feel engaged chest/pecs after doing wide push ups?

    Posted: 17 May 2021 10:11 PM PDT

    I'm doing wide push ups in sets of 10 each to build my chest. At first, I didn't know what I was doing and got sore shoulders. I followed this video by Athlean X (imagined my arms pulling together and turning my forearms forward at the top of the rep) and now my shoulders don't feel sore at all after doing the push ups, but I still don't feel quite enough engagement in my chest area. The only major discomfort I feel after doing the pushups was in my arms (which is normal for every kind of pushup, I think?) which goes away quickly within seconds after I stop exercising. I don't know if I'm doing it wrong or the chest muscles are working and I just don't feel it. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

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    The importance of HORIZONTAL Pulling exercises

    Posted: 18 May 2021 10:38 AM PDT

    Hello everybody, how much importance di you give to horizontal pulling exercises, such as Inverted bodyweight rows ( Australian pull ups ) with both prone and supine grip?

    I have Always been doing bodyweight rows since I started training, but my pull routine has mostly consisted in vertical pull exercises ( pull ups, chin ups, neutral grip pull ups, etc ), with a smaller time spent on horizontal movements, and I feel i'm neglecting them.

    If I'm doing, lets say, 8 sets of vertical pull exercises, how many sets of horizontal ones shoud I do? Or should I balance the latter with the Number of sets of vertical pushing excersises I do on push days?

    Thank you

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    Protein Drink Pro Tip

    Posted: 18 May 2021 06:20 AM PDT

    I was making my protein drink this morning with a new brand of almond milk. After adding all of my ingredients, I began shaking the drink and it came out with such force that it went all over the cabinets, refrigerator, and ceiling. The majority of the mess splatting all over me, as I stood dripping and confused. Unbeknownst to me the new almond milk contained high amounts of calcium carbonate.

    Pro Tip: Read the ingredients before mixing so you don't smell like PB2 and chocolate protein powder, unless you like that then by all means.

    If you have any more tips on protein drinks please share as I apparently need all the tips I can get.

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    Possibility of gaining muscle weight while losing fat

    Posted: 18 May 2021 11:06 AM PDT

    I'm a slim 21yo male and have been working out regularly for over a year now. My goal is to gain weight so I'm naturally eating more kcal than I burn. This works quite well for building my muscle, however I have one weird problem. My face and cheeks are getting very fat and unhealthy round looking. I don't have this problem on any other part of my body. I've tried almost everything and at this point it seems to me that I have just two choices: either have a more muscular healthy looking body with very unhealthy looking fat face or the other way round. It's obviously impossible to lose fat only on one specific part of the body so I'm hoping you can point me to the right direction. How do I lose fat while I keep gaining muscle so my face and cheeks don't look so big?

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    Which would benefit me more for chin up progression / plateau breaking

    Posted: 18 May 2021 10:09 AM PDT

    Hi all,

    Have trained on and off for years... however for the past 2/3 months I have been training constantly.

    Rather than go straight in for pull ups I have opted to get a strong foundation with chin ups, then once I can do 3 sets, 10 clean reps I'll move to pull ups.

    I'm stuck on 3 sets, 6 reps (third set the 6t is pretty ugly)...

    Should I move to doing negatives to fill in what I can't do to get to 10 reps... or would I see more benefit from doing what I am doing now in terms of set/reps but doing them weighted?

    thanks all

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    How are gymnastic rings for complete beginners?

    Posted: 18 May 2021 03:36 AM PDT

    I've recently been looking to get a pair of gymnastic rings for myself because gyms are closed and there's a lack of outdoor workout equipment where I live.

    I worked out until November, but then gyms shut down and haven't opened since. I want to get back into fitness and doing something to wake my body up and get into shape.

    While I'm not in shape, I could probably do about eight bar pull ups and a couple of dips.

    How difficult would it be for me to start fresh and build a foundation on the rings?

    Edit: I should note (don't know if this matters) I'm about six foot tall and weigh 143 pounds and very skinny.

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    Losing Skinny Fat

    Posted: 18 May 2021 12:54 PM PDT

    I'm a skinny fat 16 y.o male, 5'10 and 70 kg. I wanna be skinny and lean aka cut, and I tried everything. Ab workouts, pushups, walking... You name it. But I can't seem to lose it, I don't wanna hit the weights yet, I'd prefer to be lean first.

    Can you guys help me find a good diet? I started doing pushups, and for the past two days I've been doing 30 a day. Today I broke my limit and did 50, I really wanna get stronger. Does this even help? I'm very, very confused and would be very grateful to any kind of advice.

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    How to add more skill training to the Recommended Routine?

    Posted: 18 May 2021 12:42 PM PDT

    Hi Everyone,

    Longtime lurker here, decided to make an account after following the Recommended Routine for a few months, apologies if this question has already been answered - I did do a search and couldn't find anything specific.

    I had came across this post from the FAQ [Progress] I've been doing the recommended routine for 365 days and here's what Happened! (Hint: I'm strong as shit now!) : bodyweightfitness (reddit.com)

    and the list of skills acquired over the duration of a year seem quite extensive considering the recommended routine doesn't specifically work on them.

    I understand that strength carry over helps massively towards the majority of those skills obtained but how would you approach adding some of those into the recommended routine?

    Or would the expectation be that eventually completing all of the Recommended Routine progressions as is would develop the strength and flexibility to perform that list of skills as a "side effect"?

    Additionally once you achieve, for example, the pseudo planche pushups, do you progress to full planche pushups that arent covered as a progression or at that stage should I be looking to move onto a more advanced routine? Possibly a split into an Upper/Lower or Push/Pull (Eventually)

    Would love to hear your thoughts!

    Thanks!

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    Muscle Mass and workout Maximum

    Posted: 18 May 2021 08:38 AM PDT

    this is a question

    I play basketball, I am a female, and im 15 years old. Im 175CM, and I weight 55 KG. Both my thigs are 54 CM at their Largest point. Just curious since this hasn't been posted. I eat well and workout everyday for a QUITE, and just wanted to know. I am trying not to get too bulky while playing sports, but at the same time I want to have a bit of muscles in my thighs, but not to the point where im super bulky! Its great, but I like having my thigs not touch for some reason as it gives me comfort! But Muscle thigs are BEAUTIFUL dont get me wrong!

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    I Just Got a Full Front Lever out of nowhere!!

    Posted: 17 May 2021 04:14 PM PDT

    I was training my one arm chin ups today. From today I started the negatives. I can already hold the top position for about 5 seconds and come down slowly with total control for 10 seconds. Even though there was no pain however I was somewhat exhausted (eccentrics are lol) so I decided not to do anything else today anymore. Before I would be freaking out about this.. woah I missed a workout am I losing my motivation.. what will happen to me.. schedule ruined. Nowadays I'm more mature and don't really care. Anyway so at the end I thought about attempting a front lever because I haven't trained it for so long so let's see where I'm at. The last time I tried it I was at 5 seconds straddle with a slight pike in the hips. I expected to get a half lay today. However to my surprise, I managed to hold a 5 seconds long full Front Lever, with almost no pike!

    For the last 4 months or so I have strongly believed in mastering the simpler yet hard basic movements first before going onto such strength skill works. And it has proven me right! I ditched the front lever training completely and solely focused on the one arm chin up, progressively getting stronger. And I got it without even trying. Also the fun thing is that I can't even do an OAC yet. I'm pretty close, can do slow negatives but not the real one. So when I get the OAC I believe my front lever will be even better and easier.

    It was my 2021 goal this year to get the front lever but I got it before 6 months. So doing them weighted is my new goal.

    I always preach this idea that you should master as many strength skills possible before moving onto the next hard thing. Because even if you are not training it directly, you are training it passively because it will have carryover. I see so many beginner questions here that should I start training Planche, how many times should I train Planche I can do 30 push ups etc. So many people try to train for so many things at once and ultimately get nothing.

    I will follow this same principle for Planche as well. I can start right now (can hold 10s+ tuck Planche without ever directly training for it) but I won't. Instead in this year I will fully focus on getting a solid supinated grip back lever and 90° push ups for reps. Then I will start for the big Planche (considering I'm still alive till then)

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    calender to organize different workouts?

    Posted: 18 May 2021 11:53 AM PDT

    Hey guys, I currently have several different types of workouts and am having a bit of a hard time organizing them in advance. I'm not a fan of doing everything in a row in one day, but I like to split it up, e.g. running in the morning, strength training in the afternoon and yoga in the evening.

    Therefore, I am looking for a solution through e.g. an app in which I can plan my different workouts in advance on days and times. This way I have a better overview and can possibly reschedule depending on the situation without forgetting or shortening workouts.

    Currently I am focusing with the following:

    • yoga/stretching/flexibility (almost daily)
    • running (2-3x LIT and 1-2x HIT per week)
    • strength training (3x per week)
    • skill training e.g. L-Sit or handstand (2-3x per week)

    I have already thought about the normal iOS calender app in which I also organize my other private appointments, but I'm afraid that it might become too messy. Furthermore, I have the app trainingspeaks in which I currently organize my running training, there I could add other workouts, but you are limited in the free version and the premium version currently costs too much (100+€ per year).

    Do you have other ideas? How do you guys do it? Would love to hear your ideas and suggestions!

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    Calisthenics progressions with resistance bands not good?

    Posted: 18 May 2021 12:45 AM PDT

    Hi all together. Every once in a while I see some trainers saying, that training progressions in planche or frontlever with resistance bands isn´t a good idea. People like Artem from Calisthenics-School for example are on the side of this opinion. The assumptions is based on factors for neuronal adaptation that you need a high stress on your nervous system to adapt. When training with bands you will only get good at the exercises with the bands.

    As a sport scientist I disagree with these people, because exercising and learning skills is more than just neuronal adaptation. I have a few point and I am sure they are correct from a sport scientific view:

    1. Neuronal Adaptation also happens through repetition and training with intensity in 60-80% of your 1RM (repetition maximum). Slower but it will happen. Pure repetition will improve your intra- and intermuscular coordination, not so much the recruitement and frequency but this can also slowly happen with intensity at 60-80%
    2. You can train in an area of 90-100% of your 1RM even with bands. If I can hold a Frontlever for only 3 sec I can improve the time under tension with a light band to 10-15sec. At the end of 10sec I still have a short time under tension but also 100% workload. With that you have your neuronal adaptation in recruitement of motor units and their firing frequency.
    3. There is generally the question if it is even necessary to train neuronal adaptation only. Normally volume beats intensity (most of the time) so you will have a way higher benefit from training hypertrophy because you have more volume, more repetition for motor learning and like in point 1. even a bit of neuronal adaptation. These periods of only training neuronal adaptations should be short.
    4. Calisthenics is all about motor learning. When you master a progression you need to "learn" a new movement. Tuck, adv.tuck, straddle and full are feeling completely different. Bands are a great way to get used to them and to "feel" the position. You basically learn the position. You think about getting your straddle planche to a straight line.

    I believe bands are an important tool and that those arguments of they beeing useless for progress are invalid. I learned my frontlever, FL-Pull-ups and straddle planche with them.

    I would be interested in your opinions about this topic. Maybe there are some points I missed about this topic, also maybe I am biased because I train a lot with bands.

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    Getting the handstand kick up every time

    Posted: 18 May 2021 11:14 AM PDT

    I have had a really decent max handstand hold for quite some time but I often had to kick up a few times before actually being able to get a hold. Recently, I fixed this quite common 'issue' by focusing on 3 simple things.

    1. Actually practicing kick ups

    Handstand kick ups are a skill on their own meaning they need to be trained like one. Doing reps of just kick ups (e.g. 5-20 reps as a part of your warm up) will strengthen the required neural connections and 'feeling' for kicking up just hard enough. Avoid the mistake of focusing on the balance aspect only.

    2. Tensing and straightening limbs

    Firming your hands into the ground, locking out your elbows and activating your shoulders before kicking up allows a more steady base before kicking up. It assures minimal movement in your upper body and maximal control through your fingers. Straightening and tensing the legs allows you to control them as a unit instead of all different parts that require control.

    3. Hips over shoulders cue

    The mental cue of thinking 'hips over shoulders' before kicking up helped me a lot in finding the sweet spot of kicking up just hard enough. Once the hips are over the shoulders its just a matter of slight adaptations before you find your balance.

    The kick up is something a lot of people struggle with (more than with the balance aspect to my knowledge) but is also something quite easy to fix.

    Goodluck homies

    Note: if u want a more in depth explanation, I made a YT video on this topic, link to my channel is in my Reddit bio. Don't want to be that spammy goofball.

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    Need help with doing push-ups straight for two minutes then holding a plank longer than three minutes shortly after.

    Posted: 18 May 2021 10:08 AM PDT

    Hello,

    I usually lurk this subreddit and /r/fitness and haven't been able to search for good direct advice for my context (?).

    I need to be able to do push-ups for two minutes straight. As I am, I can't even reach 40 seconds until I'm close to collapsing, and I can only do about 30-40. I used to be able to get to 90, I put on a little weight but the last three weeks been training more and putting in work.

    For planks, two weeks ago I was able to hold a plank for three minutes finally. The next week I worked out I could barely hold for 1 min 30 seconds. What's happening?

    I usually workout 5 days a week, where Monday, Wednesday and Friday are cardio (1.5 mile, 3 mile, then sprint training), with Tuesday and Thursday being weights.

    Each workout I start with Pushups and planks.

    Would anyone be able to share insight or help out? Thank you.

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    PUSHUPS

    Posted: 18 May 2021 10:03 AM PDT

    Ok so like may people i've been doing pushups wrong my whole life. And doing them that way I can do 50 issue in one set ( not an attempt to brag I'm completely out of shape, also i was never in shape lol ). So I decided to do the proper form. Do the back thing before starting, bring back the shoulders, squeeze my cheeks, and push with my elbows not going to the side and pausing when i touch the ground. I could only to like 7 without feeling like i wanted to die. But i felt the problem in my forearms. So my question is what should I do. Should i do different pushup variations or should i do these specific every day until i do a bunch?

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    Yoga and/or cycling on rest days

    Posted: 18 May 2021 07:55 AM PDT

    Hi, I've been practicing yoga for about a year now and I also cycling very often as it is my primary main of transportation. I like to do some fairly active yoga practices

    I want to start incorporating RR into my activities to gain more strength + stability + mobility in my movements

    I was wondering what are your guys' opinions on doing yoga or cycling on rest days (from RR). Is it going to impede my progress?

    I'll probably take a full rest day once per week, but for the rest of the week, I'm planning to alternate RR/yoga/RR/yoga/...

    Thanks for your insights!

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    Problems with push up progressions

    Posted: 18 May 2021 12:43 AM PDT

    I've been doing pseudo planche push ups for some months. However, recently, I noticed that I'm reaching a plateau. While my leans are quite forward, my hand placement isn't exactly right by my hip (about 3-5 cm above it).

    The thing is, it's almost physically impossible for me to lean further without slamming my face to the ground. I thought it might be due to my strength, but at the abovementioned hand positioning, I can do 8-10 reps of 3 sets consistently, so strength isn't the problem here.

    The question now is, if it's fine if I change my horizontal push with a pseudo planche hold/decline planche hold, and what are the drawbacks of doing isometrics instead of active pushing? My goal is to achieve planche, so I was thinking of integrating my horizontal push with the planche progressions.

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    Weihted calisthenics and bodyweight fluctuations

    Posted: 18 May 2021 04:18 AM PDT

    A question for guys who do weighted calisthenics, how do you account for weight fluctuations when programming? Do you weigh yourselves regularly before a workout or do you increment the weight on the belt regardless.

    I've been experiencing a big difference between when I am a few pounds heavier and lighter and it is tricky to implement any tyoe of intermediate progression based on it. I try to put weight that would match the previous weight within a pound or so but it is such a hassle. Another way is to do something like 4x5, fail, 5x3, fail, 6x2, fail then reset. What would I reset it to? What would you guys do?

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