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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-06-20

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-06-20


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-06-20

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 11:06 PM PDT

    Welcome to the /r/bodyweightfitness daily discussion thread!

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    Don't leave your rings in the park!

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 06:11 PM PDT

    Gymnastics rings (I presume) mistaken for nooses in Oakland.

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    If health is my only concern, is it enough to do yoga, pilates and running?

    Posted: 20 Jun 2020 07:48 AM PDT

    30 yo woman here. For most of my childhood and adolescence the only exercise I did was running. As I become an adult I realized that strength and flexibility are important too and started working on those. I have some slight back problems (likely from working stationary in an office) and I did weight lifting exercises designed to help with that for about two years. I've also donee yoga and pilates, and kept up the running. But it's been hard to find time and motivation for all of them. I'm thinking about dropping the weight liftning, since it hasn't really helped with my back problems, to just focus on the yoga and pilates for a while. But I don't know if those offer enough of a strength exercise. Any thoughts?

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    Is there any app/website where I can search muscle exercises/stretching/warm up by muscle type and shows examples of how to do those exercises?

    Posted: 20 Jun 2020 09:57 AM PDT

    Cant improve pull ups for already 2-3 months

    Posted: 20 Jun 2020 05:13 AM PDT

    I started training pull ups 3 months ago and manged to raise my pull ups from 0-2, with negatives and banded pull ups. Now even tho i consistently do negatives and banded pull ups i cant seem to improve them and its really FRUSTRATING. Even deloaded and tried again and still no improvement. Any tips and help

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    [PROGRESS] Getting my One Arm Handstand!

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 10:14 PM PDT

    Alright!

    I got a 10s one arm on both sides, so I guess I can do a proper 1 arm handstand progress video/post now.

    'INSPIRATIONAL' VIDEO . kidding. It's not inspirational at all. I threw my Instagram stories with a voiceover and music and ta-dah! here we go.

    Regardless, I haven't seen too many girls post these up so I thought it would be fun. Also, I don't only do handstands. I do strength training, rock climbing, some occasional cardio too, so I wanted to show that it is possible to work on this skill and maintain other aspects of fitness.

    I started dedicating my handstand training to OAHS around the end of September of 2019. My progress has been pretty fast. I accredit this to a varied training background and good body awareness.

    TRAINING HISTORY.

    I'm 21 right now. I've been training for a long-ish time though.

    I danced from 6-16 years old (jazz, contemporary, ballet, hip hop, etc.) When I was 15-18 I picked up ashtanga yoga as well. This has given me a good background of flexibility which does help a lot for OAHS training. When I was 16 I picked up lifting weights, which I've done on and off over the past few years. I had to take a 9 month break off of training when I was 18 due to some eating disorder/health stuff, but got healthy again (yay!) and started training again in June 2017. I started doing the Recommended Routine (represent!) when I lived on a sailboat and couldn't do anything else. When I got to the city, in October of 2017 I did continue with a modified RR using weights and then also followed some powerlifting programs and a push/pull split.

    I started working towards handstands in October 2018.

    Handstands came to me pretty easily. It took me two weeks to get a 15s handstand. Most of the information I got from great ressources online: Kirsty Grosart (@garagegymgir) (her beginner programs are AWESOME. Also great for working on limitations in the handstand.) Emmet Louis (@emmetlouis) Yuri Marmerstein (@yuri_marmerstein) Mikael Kristiansen (@mikaelbalancing) and many others! Thanks to all of the people who post great bwf and handbalancing information. I love you all.

    I wanted to get some in-person coaching as well so I worked with Chris Gatti (@bearded_mann) for a couple of sessions. If you can, find an experienced coach to look at your handstand and give you some advice when you start getting decent holds. It helps. Chris is super awesome! He has some great articles on handbalancing and helped me progress in terms of understanding endurance and shapes. Go check his stuff out.

    Within my first 8 months of handstands, I got my 60s hold and a good understanding of various shapes. Still no press to handstand, although I was very close. In June 2018 I also went to one of Yuri's workshops. Yuri is awesome. He has really great interactive workshops. I think I did some pretty dismal fingertip holds here, ha.

    From June 2018-September 2019 I was moving around a lot. I spent that time maintaining my handstands and kinda improving… maybe.

    FOCUSING ON ONE ARM HANDSTANDS.

    In September 2019 I moved to where I am now and decided I wanted to work towards OAHS. I had pretty solid 60s holds and shape awareness. Still no press to handstand.

    For my OAHS training I started training 4-6x a week for around 45mins-1.5hours. I started working with fingertip holds. Once those felt alright, I started playing with straight arm support. When I could hold straight arm support, I began working on tapping the free hand.

    Honestly I pretty much did only these drills for the first 4-5 months.

    Typical handstand session looked like this:

    Wrist warm-up

    1-2 straight handstand holds

    1-2 rounds of side flexions

    30min-1hour of fingertip hold/straight arm support

    10-30min bullshit (press to handstands, hollowbacks, pancake scroll through instagram, etc)

    COACHING HELPS.

    When COVID hit I had to work from home (I'm a personal trainer and gym shut down, boo.) I got three days into quarantine and knew I needed some kind of structured training or I would be completely useless.

    I decided to get a coach and worked with Mikael Kristiansen (@mikaelbalancing) for online coaching. Mikael is super awesome! If you are looking to work towards any kind of handbalance skill, he will give you an intelligent program and excellent feedback. I also know he has some programs with Emmet Louis u/handstandfactory and they have a good podcast too. Good shit.

    Also, I can be pretty obnoxious and send many annoying and useless messages. The fact that he endured my stupid instagram messages for 3 months is remarkable. A+ coach, 10/10 would recommend.

    Having some structure and doing more press work has been very beneficial for my OAHS training.

    PROGRESSING.

    I developed a much better set up and a better understanding of the position. Eventually my body just kind of understood what to do, and I understood what I was supposed to do. I'm still in the frustrating stage of not knowing what to expect when going into training. Will it be a good day or bad day? 4s shit holds or 18s good holds, who knows, but hey, that's the process. (this is handbalancing forever, right? fk.) In the past three months, I went from inconsistent 5s holds on the right arm only to pretty consistent 10-15s holds on right and inconsistent 10s holds on left.

    INJURIES etc.

    I do have some mild tendonitis in my right arm, but I'm able to work around it and it has gotten better over the last couple of weeks. It kind of worked its way up from my wrist to shoulder. I have very bad wrist extension, so I bet that plays a role in it... anyways.

    OTHER TRAINING

    I still maintained+gained a lot of my other strength during this time. When it comes to lifts (IN POUNDS) I can sumo deadlift 225x5, back squat 175x5 (haven't focused on these in 1.5 years), bench press 135x1, do 11 pull ups, 35lb weighted chin up. I have a pretty good strength base.

    The rest of my training looked like this: 2 lower body lifts, 2 upper body sessions (changes based on months), 1-2 runs a week. Before covid I would go climbing once a week too.

    Feel free to ask me other questions about balancing training out! This will be different for everyone.

    WHAT NEXT?

    My goals onwards are going to be having consistent holds, (30s?) continuing the press work, (5 years to stadler!) and also working towards different shapes in the OAHS.

    Once I get my OAHS consistent, I will work towards my handstand push up.

    I'm also working on maintaining+gaining strength in lifting, climbing, running etc. I would like to eventually get back to more rings work (my rings have gone to the compost during this time) but I want my OAHS capacity to be higher before that and HSPU.

    TLDR: did handstands for a long time, got one arm handstand now

    Anyways, that's a lot of info. But hey! I can OAHS now.

    How exciting. Now time to keep it up and not get injured. yey.

    Feel free to ask any questions! I love this sub and it's been a big help through the years. Thanks to all of the wonderful people who have posted high-quality stuff over the years. Here is some lower quality entertainment. enjoy!

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    Difference Between Gymnastic Rings and Aerial Straps

    Posted: 20 Jun 2020 12:14 PM PDT

    Hi all, I've been training on aerial straps for a few years now but the lockdown in my country has meant that I haven't been able to train. I am considering buying some gymnastic rings to rig in a tree, and train that way. What are the major differences between straps and rings, and are the skills I have from straps transferable to rings? I'll just be conditioning on them, and I won't be doing anything I haven't done before.

    Thanks!

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    Sit Ups for Aerial Hoop?

    Posted: 20 Jun 2020 08:23 AM PDT

    First of all, the recommended routine is amazing and I love the progress I'm seeing. Thanks so much!

    I know sit ups are generally not recommended, but a key aerial hoop move involves hanging from your knees and then sitting up into the hoop. I used to train these so I could smoothly execute the move, but after reading that they're bad for your spine I paused. I'm noticing I can no longer do the move smoothly (no big surprise), despite having stronger abs overall for leg raises etc.

    Are situps still bad even if you're doing them suspended and free hanging? Can someone explain what makes them bad so I can see if I can modify my conditioning to avoid the pitfalls?

    The sitting up I'm talking about can be seen in the first few seconds of this video https://youtu.be/kPn2lEzHhjo. I'd normally do 3 sets of 6-10 sits up every few days (not grabbing onto the hoop).

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    Weighted Vest/Plate Carrier Suggestions

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 10:51 PM PDT

    While for some movement's like pull-ups and dips I'd prefer using a dip belt and plates, right now with covid and my lack of barbell rack and plates that's not an option. Does this community have any suggestions for weighted vests/plate carriers? I know there's a balance between cost, ergonomics, and the amount of weight that can be put on. I've heard great things about the Bear Komplex Plate Carrier but heavier vests I haven't seen too many things about.

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    Weighted backpack position for dips

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 07:16 PM PDT

    Simple question,

    Backpack on the back or on front for weighted chest dips? I don't want it to interfere with shoulder mobility and I tried both ways. I feel my chest activating more when weight is put on front but that is also because dips on my back makes me feel more upright and therefore triceps takeover.

    What I'm trying to say is, would it be better to do chest dips with backpack attached to my chest rather than my back and tricep dips on my back?

    Thank you in advance!

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    Slip Up Saturday (Chaturday): This is the thread to vent, laugh, and humble yourself with this past week's screw ups in training. You can also tell us all about it on our Discord chat!

    Posted: 19 Jun 2020 11:00 PM PDT

    Welcome back to the thread where no matter how new or adept you are, we can all take a moment to embrace the shortcomings that come with this journey, finding ways to improve together.

    If you've got a photo or video of yourself face planting from a handstand, doing a muscle-up into a low ceiling, or simply want us to sympathize with your lack of resolve in training consistently, this is the thread for you!

    Be sure you are familiar with the rules, particularly #2: No Medical Advice.


    So how'd you goof this week? Tell us about it! Share your epic fails!

    Click here to view last week's thread

    Click here to view previous Slip Up Saturdays.


    ADDITIONALLY, Saturday is the day we promote our chatroom, which we maintain throughout the week. There, you can find some of our active subscribers lounging around ready to provide real-time answers to your burning questions, or make friends with a common interest in bodyweight fitness! Follow the instructions below to get started:

    Step One: Click on this link to join us on Discord. Register for an account if you don't already have one!

    Step Two: Say hi, bullshit with us, or ask any questions you like and tell us how much you deadlift.

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