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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-02

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-02


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-05-02

    Posted: 01 May 2021 09:01 PM PDT

    Welcome to the /r/bodyweightfitness daily discussion thread!

    Feel free to post beginner questions or just about anything that's on your mind related to fitness!

    Reminders:

    • Read the FAQ as your question may be answered there already.
    • If you're unsure how to start training, try the BWF Primer Routine, check out our Recommended Routine, or our more skills based routine: Move.
    • Even though the rules are relaxed here, asking for medical advice is still not allowed.

    NEW EXCITING NEW YEAR NEWS:

    • The BWF Primer Routine is being rolled out! You can follow that link to a collection of all the rollout posts. Check them out and follow along at home for an introduction to BWF

    Join our live conversations on Discord! We're also on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter!

    If you'd like to look at previous Discussion threads, click here.

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    Sunday Show Off - Because it's perfectly fine to admit you're also doing bodyweight fitness to do cool tricks in front of people!

    Posted: 02 May 2021 10:44 AM PDT

    HEY SORRY FOR THE LATE POST,

    Have you taken any recent pics of those sweet gains, your human flag, or those handstands off the wall you're finally holding?

    Do you have other bodyweight fitness accomplishments you've made and want the world to know about because your friends and family can't appreciate how hard L-sit progressions are??

    This is the thread for you to share all that and inspire others at the same time! I'm talking about another S-S-SU-SUNDAY SHOW OFF!!

    Note that we aren't limiting you to what we're discussing on the FAQ. Show us anything that blew your mind the moment you realized you had it. This may include aspects of: gymnastics, climbing, parkour, weight loss/gain, posture, etc. They are all more than welcome in this thread.


    We also want to remind you that we've been sharing your content on @redditbwf on both Instagram and Twitter. Help us grow our sub's social media in order to reach out to non-Redditors across these other platforms!


    Last week's Show Off thread

    Check out some of the previous Sunday Show Off threads for more inspiration! Archives here.

    As always, many of us are on Discord and would love to meet our BWF brothers and sisters, wherever you're from!


    Want to motivate yourself further? Use our member locator and workout map resource in our sidebar to form a local workout group in your area!

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    Add cardio to strength training

    Posted: 02 May 2021 01:46 AM PDT

    Hi all ! Thanks to this sub, I'm currently doing strength training based on BWF Primer (I follow the day 14 and onward advices), in order to be in a good shape (M28, 5'10 and 160lbs). Currently at week 6, I'm progressing at a smooth rate, since I'm a beginner. My first goal is to continue onto the RR next month !

    But I'm wondering how to add cardio efficently and not overdoing it... I'm lacking endurance and was thinking about trying the "couch to 5k" in r/C25K, but should I do it the same day as my strength training ? Before or after the strength ? I'm a bit lost concerning how to add a new program in my routine...

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    Chest Workout: Calisthenics vs. Freeweights

    Posted: 02 May 2021 03:00 AM PDT

    Hi, I was hoping one of you guys could explain this.

    I used to go to gym regularly but for the past 2 years, I've been doing bodyweights, at home and in outdoor gyms.

    After doing chest exercises in gym, e.g. benchpress, I would feel the impact mainly in the sides of my chest (pecs).

    However, after bodyweight chest exercises, typically variations of press ups, I feel the impact mainly in the lower part of my chest.

    I would think the range of motion doing bench press is very similar to doing press ups, so I found this interesting.

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    Need help finding a Habitual EVERY DAY routine. Rest days mess me up!

    Posted: 02 May 2021 11:16 AM PDT

    Hi all, I am looking for some advice on building my routine.

    I suffer from depression/anxiety, but I am finally healthy enough to build habits. I am 1 week into a daily routine and my main issue has been with rest days. I need to create a system where I can get enough exercise EVERY DAY to counteract the depression. Rest days have been hell so far due to the lack of accomplishment/ serotonin release. I know rest is important and I am willing to change exercises so that worked muscles can rest, but my overall body MUST have a workout every day. I am honestly terrified of falling back into not working out.

    In the past when I have tried to develop a workout skill, rest days were always the days that I would fall off the train. I am unwilling to let that happen anymore. The plan is to get this skill ingrained as a habitual act, so that when I inevitably wake up depressed randomly I won't have to rely on willpower "which is at that point nonextant" to exercise, and can instead rely on habit. This process should take about 3 months based on my habit development for meditation.

    My first week of training has been as follows: 4-3 sets x10 BAD FORM

    • Inclined pushups
    • Squats
    • Bench dips
    • 30s no-named plank
    • Rows using rope attached to my wall at belly button height.

    Been doing this 3 days on 1 day off.

    Yesterday I went researching as I kind of like the exercise and I wanted to figure this no rest day thing out. I discovered my terrible form, and have switched over to Antraniks' routine following good form. Talk about a difficulty increase. So I am switching over to GOOD FORM

    • full set of planks,
    • 3x8
    • incline pushups,
    • rope rows,
    • 1leg L-Sit 30s,
    • Squats.

    He recommends 3 days a week, for this. So what do I do on the rest days? Cardio? a different set of exercises? Sweating seems to be a good indicator that I have exercised enough to help my head.

    I of course want to get stronger/ look better too, but the main goal is to stay out of the rut.

    I am 6'1-2" 132lb, Been a thin wretch like my dad my whole life, so trying to GAIN not lose as losing would be no bueno.

    /r/EOOD is cool and all, but hasn't been super helpful for me. Seems to be mostly support.

    Thank you in advance for any insight! This sub has already been immeasurably helpful to me.

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    Ring set up for 7ft ceilings (basement)

    Posted: 02 May 2021 08:17 AM PDT

    Hey all. Was wondering if any of you had some layouts or tips for mounting rings in a slightly shorter room. I have a nice wide open area in my basement that I'd like to turn into an area for calisthenics and rings. But not sure what my best options would be. I've looked through the recommended options on the sidebar, but nothing really describes the heights and whether or not 7ft is too short. Should I just mount. Board to the ceiling joists and hang the rings from there? Or am I going to be too compacted in this space and look for another option?

    Edit: I would like to be able to get a muscle-up on rings at some point. Is this possible in a short space like that?

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    HSPU/HeSPU and variations correlation with weighted movements

    Posted: 02 May 2021 08:16 AM PDT

    Hi,

    I am curious to see everyone's experience on transfer between HSPU/HeSPU and their variations to weighted movements (OHP, Dips, Incline bench press). I read with great interest the survey by frinksmovement on correlation between weighted pull-ups and front lever. I was wondering the same thing for HSPU. I am a tall and big guy (6'3 and 200lbs) and I find pike pushups hard and hard to measure progress because there is a thousand ways to make them harder or to cheat with only minor changes. I can do several reps of pike pushups if I don't focus too much on weight distribution but if I lean sir far forward as to where my feet feel light in the bottom position I can only do a couple of reps. You can make them easier by shifting your weight more onto your feet, my leaning forward less, by arching the low back, by increasing distance between feet and hands, by flaring the elbows etc... So right now I am using pike pushups as a skill move doing only quality reps (2-3 reps per set) with max lean and then I do OHP to build my raw overhead pressing strength. I know OHP won't give me HSPU but it may give me the brute strength and if I use pike pushups/HeSPU as skill work I may get it this way instead of going the strict bodyweight pike push-up route. Pike pushups and HSPU don't follow a strict vertical path, you are in a kind of high incline bench press position in the bottom of the rep. That is why I am supplementing my vertical pushing with some incline bench press. Also there is some debate as to how weighted dips help HSPU work. I don't do weighted dips and I guess there is only minor transfer because they work your triceps.

    So I would appreciate if everyone reading this could state : Age , bodyweight and height

    1/ Where they are on the HSPU path : floor pike pushups, knee height elevated pike pushups (floor or on PBars?) hip height elevated pike pushups (floor or on PBars)pike pushups plus (your feet lift off in the bottom of the rep), tuck bent arm stand, straight leg bent arm stand (aka Yaad Hold), Chest to wall HeSPU, Chest to wall HSPU (aka on PBars) freestanding HeSPU, freestanding HSPU, Rings HSPU

    And

    2/ Some form of 3RM, 5RM or anything to gauge strength in : Standing or seated OHP, Incline dumbell or barbell bench press, weighted PBars or ring dips.

    I am also very interested on reading about how you worked towards HeSPU/HSPU : strictly bodyweight? Hybrid approach ? handstand + OHP? Need for higher volume or higher intensity ?

    This should be interesting!! Thank you all!!

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    Feeling tired all the time when working out

    Posted: 02 May 2021 12:41 AM PDT

    Hey guys,

    So I've been feeling tired every time I go work out for months now, and what I mean by that is I take 2 hours to complete a 4 exercise workout. And I just do 3 sets for each one of them.

    I just noticed this was not normal at all when I trained with some friends who were going much faster than me, and didn't understand why I was taking so much time.

    The thing is I rest A LOT between sets. I feel like I won't be able to complete the next set if I don't. The worst is with (high rep) pullups. I have to rest like 10 mn or maybe even more sometimes, because I'm so exhausted when performing them... I think I rest 5 minutes minimum between sets, and this is on my good days.

    I have literally 0 explanation for that, I mean I have good sleep, good food (calorie surplus + enough protein), low stress levels...

    So has any of you felt like that ? Or should I go the doc ?

    Edit : I don't do any cardio, do you think it's related ? I just stopped because it didn't carry over to anything so I thought it wasn't necessary. Also maybe it wasn't clear, but I don't experience this kind of fatigue constantly, just when I'm working out.

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    Is any really strong people using Recommended Routine for gains?

    Posted: 02 May 2021 08:52 AM PDT

    Been doing the Recommended Routine for almost a year now, and I'm starting to do some quite advanced stuff. Weigthed dips, starting weighted pull-ups, archer push-ups, 80 kg squat, 90 kg deadlift. I've noticed that this program has really high intensity now. Like jumping between weighted quats and weighted pull-ups, or between deadlift and dips is really exhausting. It seems like maybe I need longer resting period, or a shorter schedule.

    Is anyone who has climbed the ranks a bit still using recommended routine, or are people switching to some other kind of routines? And those of you using the RR for after getting quite advanced, what are your thoughts on it?

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    Free Weights First vs. Calisthenics First

    Posted: 02 May 2021 01:05 AM PDT

    I'm looking for some more opinions, because I felt like the discussion I just had was very thought-provoking.

    My boyfriend and I are disagreeing (not arguing, it's all just for fun), and even though fitness at the end of the day is about what workout you will actually do, I'm stubborn and wanted a second opinion:

    He prefers mostly free weights and I prefer mostly calisthenics. We're training for an obstacle race (post-plague) and I want to start with a slightly modified version of the RR, while he wants to start immediately on free weights. While we are going to just be doing different workouts, I asked him if he was at least able to do the bodyweight form movements (squat, hinge, lunge, vertical pull and push, horizontal pull and push, and the movements/holds of the core) of the various exercises, 3x8, with perfect form, and then I used pushups vs. barbell bench press as an example. He said that he could do bench presses with just the bar with perfect form and that he found bench presses easier than pushups.

    We started arguing about whether or not it was necessary or at least a good idea to be able to reach a solid 3x8 calisthenics-form of a body movement before moving on to the free weights, even if you have perfect form on the barbell.

    -- His reasoning is that if he can do the free weights exercise with just the barbell with perfect form, then it shouldn't be dangerous or a problem to just skip bodyweight ability and go straight to free weights if he prefers it.

    -- My reasoning is that he should at least be able to manage the basic body movements with just the body before adding something like weight or a barbell to it, regardless of if he can manage the barbell with perfect form, because it gives him the real-world usage ability before he starts building pure strength.

    So while I suspect you guys might be a bit biased, given that this is a bodyweight fitness subreddit I still wanted to hear your opinion?

    (I should mention that I do plan on using free weights myself wherever the RR progression allows, like deadlifts and squats, and a few other obstacle race training exercises that require weights. I'm not anti free weights; I just prefer bodyweight work if I can help it.)

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    Losing weight trying to gain muscle

    Posted: 01 May 2021 09:01 PM PDT

    I'm a male 163 or so pounds and 15 years of age and I've been trying to lose some weight mostly to get my stomach flat but I've also been trying to gain muscle as well for wrestling. I've given up potato chips, candy and other sugars, cup noodles, and other junk foods you can think of, and I've started eating less. My diet now consists of fruits, celery with peanut butter as I've heard it's good to eat, rice and chicken and other foods. I have also done exercises such as bench pressing, lifting weights, push ups, squats, sit ups and I've also been trying to learn how to jump rope but I've failed miserably. I don't have a scale so I can't measure my weight but by looking at myself my stomach hasn't gotten any flatter but my arms do look a bit bigger. Anyone have any suggestions on what else I can do to lose my stomach fat and gain more muscle?(also can someone give me tips on how to learn to jump rope that would be really great) I use the golds gym XR 10.1 bench for my exercises and I've been doing these exercises for about two to three weeks now

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    Pike Pushups form check please

    Posted: 02 May 2021 09:18 AM PDT

    Hey everybody. Lockdown had me down bad. I went from 155lbs to 195lbs. Now I'm back to 166.5lbs still losing.

    I used to lift weights. My best OHP ever was 120lbs for 3x5 at 145lbs. I was pretty stronk. But not anymore.

    I have been doing the minimalist routine for about... 2 months? But I want to train my shoulders directly. So I am trying out pike pushups.

    This is the best lean I can manage for about 8 reps right now. How's my form?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR-tTDR1D4g

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    so cankles?

    Posted: 02 May 2021 06:51 AM PDT

    I'm normal weight, 19F, but I dont move a lot. I spend a lot of time sitting. I started just working out few times a week, either a walk, hiit or just some squats, planks... My problem is I have fat ankles, idk if they are actually from swelling or just fat from not moving? So I'm interested in what are best exercises for ankles. Also one of the problem is I have kinda big calves, atleast when compared to my upper legs, so I dont really wanna bulk them up, which I suppose its hard when targeting ankles. But again I'm not sure if its muscle or fat, I believe both, so will stretching help not to bulk them too much? I'm also trying to get my upper legs bigger so calves wont look so big anymore. Thank you!

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    Will this workout plan do me any good?

    Posted: 02 May 2021 10:14 AM PDT

    I'm 16 M, relatively skinny and I don't really have the ability to go to the gym, but I plan on gaining muscle and staying fit, nothing major and nothing too intense so I made this plan for 30 days and asking here if it would actually do me any good, so here I go.

    I plan on simply doing planks for 1 minute to start me off then a 25 to 50 push-ups for 5 sets and gradually increasing the push-ups I do by 25 as it gets easier and easier.

    Then I move onto sit-ups same reps and sets as the push-ups again increasing the numbers as it gets easier.

    I was planning on doing pull-ups but I have nowhere to do it from, nor do I have a pull-up bar, so I've replaced it with squats.

    And about my diet, I usually eat rice and meat or chicken, I drink a lot of coffee or tea with milk but not sure if I should cut those off as well.

    I'm open to suggestions and help with this plan, please keep in mind that I'm pretty new at this and hoping to have some gains soon enough.

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    I dip, you dip

    Posted: 02 May 2021 10:08 AM PDT

    Hi! I've been lifting weights for a few months and it's about time to switch up my routine. I really want to add dips to my workout, but I have two issues: 1. I don't have anywhere to do dips properly(doing them off the edge of my bench currently) 2. I'm so weak :(

    Does anyone have any tips on how I should move on with dips at home so I can actually get better at them?

    Just in case, I've been doing full push days, so I've been working on my chest and triceps with dumbbells as well as bodyweight exercises like pushups

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    Recommended Pull up and Dip Station

    Posted: 02 May 2021 10:07 AM PDT

    hello all,

    There are no public calisthenics parks where I live, and my parents are concerned with the damage doorframe pull-up bars may do (even if this is dogmatic, I won't be able to convince them otherwise.) So I was wondering if anyone has used any particular pull-up and dip stations that they would recommend. I understand that the main concern is usually with the stability of such standalone stations, so any advice would be helpful.

    Also if anyone knows what model this one is, that would be great, because it seems pretty sturdy: https://youtu.be/7xBrBhOKc6o?t=129

    Thanks.

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    Need Help on Where to Start

    Posted: 01 May 2021 05:20 PM PDT

    Hello!

    My stats are: M24 , SW: 318/144kg CW:310lb/140kg. 38.8% BF, 6'1.

    I've gone through the FAQ and my question is a little bit more specific. I'm looking to begin bodyweight training and switch my entire training regimen over to bodyweight and eventually calisthenics.

    For some background I have been dieting since March 30th and have already lost about 8lb in the last month. My current routine is a daily 5-7k walk and if I'm feeling good more. But essentially I aim for 1-1.5 hours of walking everyday. I have also been doing yoga to loosen up my joints and tendons as I've been sedentary for about 3 years.

    Prior to this current bit in my life I was lifting 5-6x a week, a mix of powerlifting and bodybuilding. I went from 275 to about 255, I wasn't tracking bodyfat at this stage in my training. Slowly I've gained a ton of weight while intermittently training.

    I've planned out to do basic bodyweight exercises as a circuit 3x a week. I can do basic movements like push ups, squats, plank hold and other ab exercises. I cannot do pull ups. I've ordered gymnastics rings to do easy variations of these movements. And I want to keep my heart rate up to stimulate more fat loss.

    Are there any concerns in terms of putting strain on my joints by doing BW exercises? In other words, should I wait until I've lost more weight to begin BW or can I begin doing basic movements at a reasonable volume?

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    See no improvement after months.

    Posted: 01 May 2021 03:19 PM PDT

    I am 15 years old male that weighs about 125 lb. I'm trying to get a more toned body with more visible muscle. I've always ran in my life so my legs are ok and have also always done push ups and pull ups here and there. Over the past month or two i've been to crossfit about 2 a week or more and I definitely feel stronger but don't see any differences. I have also been eating a lot of meals for the calories.

    Does anyone have any tips. Like a diet or a workout i should do instead of crossfit like weightlifting? I also really want to get into calisthenics soon.

    Thank yall

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    Which exercises have the most carryover?

    Posted: 01 May 2021 12:41 PM PDT

    As a bit background I mainly do CrossFit. I know it'll get stick here but in all honesty I love it. I wouldn't do it if I didn't.

    I've always had an itch to be able to do bodyweight skills. I've got an amazing home gym that has all the equipment I need to do CrossFit, so never had to stop during lockdown. In a way I kind of wish I didn't have this equipment because it would have gave no option but for me to scratch the itch.

    I'm wanting to incorporate two or three extra sessions per week to work on bodyweight movements and skills.

    My current 1rm are:

    Weighted dips +60kg

    Wall handstand push-ups 17

    Pull ups 13 (1rm +40kg)

    I can handstand walk about 10m but not with great form

    No strict muscle up but 10 kipping

    My bodyweight goals are a freestanding handstand push up, planche, FL, BL and strict muscle up.

    How would be best to go about this?

    Which exercises have the most carry over?

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