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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-05-04

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-05-04


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2020-05-04

    Posted: 03 May 2020 11:08 PM PDT

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    I did my first muscle up!

    Posted: 04 May 2020 01:30 AM PDT

    Hello Bodyweigthfitness fam! Hope you all are doing doing good in these days.

    I just did my first muscle up yesterday! And I feel soooo amazinggg. Check it out

    It was shabby, with a kip, and kinda ugly, whatever describes a fresh new step. And I'm onto getting more and more, and better.

    Background: Before lockdown I had been lifting since some 9 months now, whilst simultaneously being in my college soccer team, which had me doing super over-cardio with practicing 6 days a week. But my gym life was pretty nice where I worked out with a strength-training inclined regimen with lots of Squats, deadlifts and Pullups.

    In the past month, I discovered High Volume calisthenics and Prisoner style workouts and have developed a thing for the same. My current workout includes 6 Days a week push pull legs split as follows:

    • Pull: 10X10 Pullups super set 10X20 deficit pushups, accessories (Pullups comprise of broken sets at 7+3 reps after 2-3 sets, I incoporate some 6-7 pullups grips/variations)
    • Push: 10X15 Dips super set 10X10 Body rows, accessories
    • Legs: 5X10 Pistol squats (Assisted and clean both), 4XMax each of weighted Deep Step Ups, Lunges, Squats.

    I believe the high volume here has helped me a lot in getting a higher threshold strength. Having all the Bench press, barbell rows, cable rows put to loads of pullups and dips, it has helped me a lot. My current BF is at around 18-20%, and I aim to cut slowly whilst having a decent hypertrophy regimen and developing body control too.

    MY QUESTION IS, how do I take it further from here. I have decided to simply add 7-10 muscle ups to all 6 days (I don't mind a 10 sets of 1 muscle up, working out robustly has got me good results). I aim to get a clean strict muscle up. I want to know and discuss how do you suggest to format my routine for better results. All suggestions and criticisms are welcome.

    I aim at having a good hypertrophy routine while cutting slowly, and not primarily prioritizing planche and levers and clean muscle up progressions, but I do wanna develop strength and control for those too. I currently am at a 15-20 sec strict low Dragon Lever, 3 and a half minute plank, but I don't practice those while still having a flab bulked physique. I do a good jump rope session 3-4 days a week.

    EDIT: For many of you think that I do a pretty rigorous workout and achieved a MU after so long...well actually I never followed a MU progression 😅 I only tried a MU for the second time in my life that day when I achieved it. I only trained for strength-athleticism and hypertrophy.

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    Can’t do pull ups but even passive hanging has helped so much, thanks everyone!!

    Posted: 04 May 2020 08:41 AM PDT

    Ok, so this is a lame thank you post. The faq for this sub is incredible. I always thought I was pretty good at working out from home even before the pandemic but this stuff is next level.

    So I can't actually do a pull up yet. Not even close but I can now passive hang for 10 seconds using my kids bunk bed with knees just off the ground. Just doing this daily I am finding soooooo much relief in my rounded shoulders and thoracic spine. It pop crackle and snaps like my neck is bubble wrap. Can't wait for playgrounds to re-open so I can use those bars!

    Thank you everyone here. Love the information and motivation from you fit as fuck people. Please keep sharing vids and photos. Some of the exercises are so much easier to follow visually (also eye candy lol).

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    Weighted deficit push ups are godly

    Posted: 04 May 2020 02:00 AM PDT

    Been working out for a while and always had trouble with my chest. I love weighted dips, but this might even be a better chest builder in my eyes. I do them similar to Fitnessfaq. Except with chairs and a 30 pound DB (all I've got). Just gotta make sure you don't let your back sag. But the pump these give us unreal especially the deficit allowing you to go deeper.

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    One Year Ago Today - we had 1m members, now almost 1.5m ! WOW!

    Posted: 04 May 2020 11:55 AM PDT

    https://www.reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness/comments/bkubng/celebrating_1_million_subscribers_giveaway/

    One year ago BWF achieved a milestone at had 1 million members, and now a year later it is almost 1.5 members! How time flies by, right??

    Happy Star Wars Day to the fans! Oh, Empire Strikes Back is still the best movie ;-)

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    Nordic Curls VS Slick Floor Bridge Curls (discussion)

    Posted: 04 May 2020 08:31 AM PDT

    So with quarantine I've transitioned to BWF to do my workouts and found out these are actually awesome exercises to the point I think I'm going to continue doing them once gyms reopen. I'm just trying to spark a discussion on the Pros/Cons of both exercises on athleticism, strength, muscle building and transferability to other exercises like the Barbel Deadlift. Any contribution is welcomed as I'm trying to learn more about these two exercises myself.

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    what's more important for recovery? Sleep or the passage of time? (Life in quarantine)

    Posted: 04 May 2020 01:15 AM PDT

    So I'm spending a lot of time sleeping in quarantine, literally getting two day's worth of sleep in one day sometimes. As an experiment I tried compressing my workouts from every 48 hours to every 24 hours on the days I was sleeping 12-14 hours (instead of my usual 6-8 hours).

    When I repeat my full body workout 24 hours later instead of 48 hours later, I'll see the exact same progress I would expect to see after 48 hours. However, I haven't tried to pursue this schedule with any seriousness, just when I get a high amount of sleep, so I can't draw any conclusions.

    But it's got me curious about the nature of recovery. If literally all I do is eat and sleep, am I still beholden to the passage of time? Anyone know how the body works?

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    How much is breathing rhytm actually important during exercises?

    Posted: 04 May 2020 03:39 AM PDT

    Whenever i find a new exercise, breathing rythm is never mentioned (except for few cases). Why?

    I know that generally the rule is to exhale during the concentric part, when there is an exertion, and inhale during the eccentric one, when you're getting back to starting position. So inhale before the difficult part and exhale during it.

    But this isn't always so intutive.

    Let's take squat sky reaches and deadbugs for example. I thought that by logic the concentric part of squat sky reaches is reaching up with your arm, so exhale while reaching up and inhale while getting back to the starting position, the deep squat. But, had i not seen this video by u/Antranik i would have never known i was doing it wrong (?): it seems i should instead inhale while reaching up and exhale while coming down.

    How could i have known this? Online i found nothing that explained the breathing pattern.

    Same thing for deadbugs. It is mentioned a lot in the guide by u/captain_nachos that this exercise is really great because it teaches you diaphragmatic breathing and how to brace the core, but the breathing pattern is never actually mentioned. According to Antranik, you should inhale while extending your leg and arm, and exhale while coming back to starting position, but again i thought it'd be the opposite; online i found yet again nothing that explained the breathing rythm, except some articles like this (there are also a few others) which actually say the opposite of the video:

    1. On an exhale, slowly lower your right arm and left leg until they're just above the floor.

    2. On an inhale, bring them back to the starting position.

    So, it seems it's not as intuitive as it seemed, and yet, breathing rythm is rarely mentioned in the explanation of an exercise.

    The og warmup routine is full of amazing exercises for shoulders and wrists (especially for me, since those are weak areas), but what about the breathing rythm during the different exercises? The video doesn't mention it, i tried to search individually for each exercise but found nothing online.

    Shoulder rolls - scapular shrugs - cat camels - band straight arm overhead pull downs - band straight arm chest flies - band dislocates - all the wrist mobility exercises...

    I was also thinking of adding some ankle/hip mobility videos i found, and again...nothing.

    And i also have another doubt.

    The general rule says inhale while going down and exhale while going up (even though we've already seen there's doubts even about this..sigh) But let's take this harop/nordic curl demonstration by Ido Portal: it takes effort to control your body while going down, isn't that some kind of exertion, too? And the same idea applies to other exercises, like dips, the other hinge exercises etc

    Is it maybe this the general pattern to follow instead: inhale at starting position- exhale while moving away from starting position- pause and inhale- exhale while going back to starting position- repeat. Or maybe this is just counterproductive? Another one i read about is the valsava maneur, is that the way to follow instead? Or that just applies exclusively to weight-lifting squats and nothing else?

    So i have also doubts about

    • all types of negatives variations of an exercise (like in pull ups, dips etc)

    • reverse hyperextensions (and the variations where while extending the legs, you also lower and raise them before going to the starting position)

    • the exercises in the hinge section

    Breathing rythm is almost never mentioned in the explanation of an exercise: maybe it doesn't really matter as long as you're doing it? Am i just overthinking? I'm just genuinely interested in understanding what's the optimal way to train.

    I just want to know how to know this stuff right away whenever i find a new exercise instead of making many researches and yet not find an answer to my doubts.

    Hope y'all can help.

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    AB WORKOUT

    Posted: 04 May 2020 12:08 PM PDT

    Can I still be a good athlete without following a set training scheme?

    Posted: 04 May 2020 08:21 AM PDT

    E.g. for example, there are sets and rep schemes for everything. Everything is quantifiable from power to body fat to barbell numbers, I've done all of that now.

    I had goals like achieve one arm push up, done, achieve ring muscle up, done, achieve pistol squat, done, In wondering what it's like to have NO performance goals, just moving. Currently, I would describe myself as a movement athlete because I'm training to be strong but only as far as it helps me move well, I've had goals like back flip, front flip, full handstand push up etc.

    For example, Kaisa Keranen says that she just does what she feels like doing that day and has no performance goals. I would love to see what that is like.

    So I have exercises that I do on a regular basis for set sets and reps, bridging, squat variations etc. what would happen if I ditched all my performance goals and just moved? What that make me weaker or a worse athlete?

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    Are floor pull ups a good excerise?

    Posted: 04 May 2020 07:24 AM PDT

    Are they a good excerise to do for The back?

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    Those who are able to work out, how are your gains during quarantine?

    Posted: 04 May 2020 11:04 AM PDT

    Those who are fortunate enough that their gains are one of their top priorities in life ATM - how are they? Are you maintaining, gaining, or did you lose some?

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    Suddenly lost my ab mind-muscle connection, now I feel it only in my back

    Posted: 04 May 2020 06:39 AM PDT

    I've decided to open a separate thread since I've read about people losing their mind-muscle connection after a surgery or a long break from working out, but I haven't taken any breaks and not sure what to do because I've never come across a similar case.

    Sooo I (22F, 167cm, 53kg) have been training at home (with youtube videos, mainly bodyweight, recently started incorporating resistance bands and dumbells) on and off since 2014, until February 2019 when I finally found the will to make working out a habit and have been consistent since then.

    Ab definition has always been my main goal and I've been doing ab exercises since the beginning. I've developed quite a good muscle memory and my abs rarely get sore at this point, so in November 2019 I decided to, say, step up my game, and these two things happened simultaneously:

    1) I started doing ab workouts with no breaks only, such as this one, this one and this one. I found especially the third one very hard and started experiencing back pain during the workout and later during the day.

    2) well, I admit to this being dumb and the definition of creating a problem that wasn't there in the first place: some fitness youtuber mentioned something along the lines of "I don't have a great ab definition because I have anterior pelvic tilt", I've always struggled with getting a good definition so I read on the subject and was like "wow! I have this so now I have to fix it", then watched some YT videos with exercises that help fixing that "tilt". The even dumber thing I did was coming across a video on diastasis recti and thinking I have that too simply judging on the way I flex my abs during a workout 🙄🙄🙄

    So I added exercises for DT, on top on always thinking about fixing my ATP, on top of doing ab workouts that add a little too much strain on my ab area... and a week later I couldn't feel any exercise in my abs. Started feeling it ALL in my back (upper, lower, depends on the exercise).

    I stopped doing abs for two months hoping a break would fix my situation, but it didn't. I can't mentally force myself to contract my abs the way I did 6 months ago - I just unconsciously kinda suck them in(?) and have to concentrate REALLY hard it order not to feel it in my back. I used to "flex" them during a workout by kind of pushing them outwards, but I recently read that this isn't really the correct way either. Ab workouts used to be my favourite and now I am dreading them.

    I do realize that, to a large extent, the problem starts in my head and that's where I have to start, and that a gym trainer or a PT would be more in fixing my problem, but they're not an option due to quarantine, so... I'm turning to reddit 💁🏻‍♀️ Any advice or suggestions are welcome!

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    Range of motion during chin-up

    Posted: 04 May 2020 06:27 AM PDT

    I've added chin-ups to my regiment recently, and found that I perform two different versions of the chin-up due to declined mobility/range of motion of my shoulder girdle.

    The first one is when I grip the bar with the upper part of my handpalm, meaning I properly and fully grip the entire bar along my calluses/fingers. When I use this form of gripping the bar, I can't get into a deadhang, since I can't extend my arms fully. My elbows will never be fully extended, because I dont have that range of motion with my shoulder.

    If I do fully extend my elbows, my grip changes and slides further up my hand, from my palm to my fingers. This way I can reach the deadhang, since the range of motion comes from the change in grip instead of shoulder mobility. This results in my grip being more reliant on finger strength. This places much more stress on my forearms, since performing chin-ups this way results in my fingers being flexed (instead of the load going through my entire hand when using my handpalm) and thus my forearm being (over-)used.

    Is this mobility issue common and have others experienced this? I'd really appreciate some advice on how to properly do these chin-ups. Should I go for a proper handpalm grip and not fully extend into a deadhang on the way down, or place much more stress on my forearm during the chin-up, but then I will be able to get into the deadhang.

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    Motivation Monday for 2020-05-04

    Posted: 03 May 2020 11:08 PM PDT

    Welcome to Motivation Monday, your weekly thread for motivational videos, pictures, and stories!

    Anything goes in this thread, as long as it's motivating. Let's get started!


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    Looking for good pullups home routine.

    Posted: 03 May 2020 11:46 PM PDT

    I have gymnastic rings, and at the time that quarantine started i decided to do every 2days 15 minutes pullups training. The goal was to progress with every session so I'm able to do more pullups during 15 min each day. Sets and break time were random. As it stands for now those were my results: 45/47/51/52/50/55/56/54/54/53/50/54/54/53/53/54/51/52.

    To sum it up: There's no progress altogether.Can anyone recommend some good routine that will level up my pullups?

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    Recommendations for body movement courses (like GMB Vitamin or Mobius)

    Posted: 03 May 2020 09:14 PM PDT

    I'm about halfway through GMB Vitamin and really love it.

    I'm also remarkably inflexible. Even some of the first variations of Vitamin are too much for me - so I suspect Mobius is too much for me right now (don't worry, Elements is doing wonders for me).

    Curious though: what other movement courses are out there like Vitamin? I know of Animal Flow, but I suspect it's too hard for me right now. There's of course the Skill Day Routine, and I have also considered Yoga or Tai Chi. I figured you wonderful people here would have some other excellent recommendations though! I just want to make sure I keep moving - it's really eye opening for someone who has spent most of their life at a desk.

    Thanks so much.

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    Looking for suggestions for improving pull-ups

    Posted: 03 May 2020 10:08 PM PDT

    YouTube link

    Looking for suggestions for adjustments in perform the pull-ups property

    Thanks!

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