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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-03-26

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-03-26


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-03-26

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 09:01 PM PDT

    Welcome to the /r/bodyweightfitness daily discussion thread!

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    Opinions on Saturno Movement's 15-minute planche workout.

    Posted: 26 Mar 2021 03:45 AM PDT

    First of all I'd just like to make one thing clear: I am not hating on Gabo Saturno's content, I have a lot of respect for him and have been a keen follower of his channel for a long time. I'd just like to start a discussion regarding his recent 15-minute skill routines.

    The video in question: 15 Minute Planche Routine (All Levels) - FOLLOW ALONG

    The routine breakdown:

    1. Planche Progression Hold 4x15s (45s rest)
    2. Planche Pushup Progression 4x20s (45s rest; training for time rather than reps)
    3. Planche Leans 4x10s (45s rest)
    4. Scapular Pushups 4x20s (45s rest)

    The reason I want to discuss this is because this kind of routine goes against everything I thought I knew about training strength skills. A lot of us might be aware that training strength requires long rest periods of around 3-5 minutes between sets, and that the planche is without doubt a very demanding strength skill. Yet in Gabo's video they are resting only 45 seconds between sets, training more in the muscular endurance end of the spectrum.

    It doesn't take a genius to understand why they may have decided to make this series (YouTube = a 15-minute follow along will get more views than a 1-hour follow along) so I7d like to steer the discussion away from that. Instead, I'd like to focus on the practical applications of this kind of routine: Do you think it would be effective? Why? Could it do more harm than good? Could progress in the planche truly be made with a program built around muscular endurance?

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    Seeking advice for base building calisthenics training

    Posted: 26 Mar 2021 05:19 AM PDT

    Ok, so let's start. I'm coming from a weightlifting background where you have the basic big three movements, bench, squat and deadlift. Also, you have vertical pressing movements, vertical and horizontal pulls, and the former can be categorized into horizontal pressing, squat and hinge categories. Each category has one or two exercises which you build in terms of performance which have the most carryover to the wide array of other movements, eg. stronger bench press does mean stronger incline press etc. Compound movements mimicking the basics can be occassionally used as a main lift.

    My questions are: - Which movements and their variations give you most bang for your buck?

    • What skills are considered foundational eg. Muscle ups are impresssive, but they basically consist of an explosive pull up and a straight bar dip, but front lever is an impressive feat of strength in and of itself.

    • If you do your training 4 times a week, split it into strength and hypertrophy, upper lower push pull, where do you put skill training?

    • How to incorporate both weighted and progressive calisthenics movements?

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    Overall volume workouts, when to increase reps?

    Posted: 26 Mar 2021 05:15 AM PDT

    Hey guys, for upper days I switched over to an overall volume workout where (as of yesterday) I try to hit 40 pull-ups, 24 dips (taking it slow with dips for shoulder / weaker at pushing reasons), 60 rows and 90 push-ups. Respectively, I do 8x5, 6x4. 5x12, 6x15. The last two sets of rows and push-ups were less, so I was fatiguing by then. Took a total of 36 mins after warm up.

    For people who train like this, when (after how many workouts or weeks) do you decide to up the overall reps? I probably could do more pull-ups and dips but feel pretty worked today. Also I could try to do it in less time. Or do people aim to hit the same number but in less sets? What is your priority in terms of which factors to change? I think I want to get to 50/30/80/120 and then try to decrease time or sets.

    Thoughts? Thanks!

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    Help wth Pull-ups and Inverted Rows on final ROM

    Posted: 26 Mar 2021 01:48 AM PDT

    Hey! Whenever I try to pull-up (the upper-chest to bar variation), I always make sure to get into the proper positioning and cues: depress and pinch shoulder blades together and then pull from the elbows. The problem I have is that I can only maintain this position till like 1 inch from the bar when my back inevitably rounds no matter how hard I try. How can I fix this? Is this a mobility issue or strength issue?

    Additionally, whenever I do the inverted row, the same problem persists. I set up with full tension in my posterior chain, lead with the chest, but can never really touch my chest to the bar without compensating by adding momentum via my hips. Is this interlinked with the problem I have with the final range of motion for the pull-ups? I was doing the standard hollow-body pull-up and chin up before but then when I saw Calisthenic movement's video on proper technique I realized I needed to change my form.

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    Can I build muscle with my at home routine?

    Posted: 26 Mar 2021 12:35 AM PDT

    So I'm 5"7 125lbs. Pretty skinny and overall weak looking.

    All throughout quarantine I have sat there and done nothing and I want a better toned body by summer, which is like 4-5 months away.

    I have a barbell with I'd say 80lbs, a bench, 8lb dumb bells, a dip station, and a pull up bar. I also have a full chest, back, bicept and legs, shoulder, tricep routine. The routine I currently have is too hard to finish, so I've lowered the reps so I can slowly progress.

    If I stay consistent with this workout, and try to eat more, especially protein, do you think I will notice any muscle growth?

    How many times a week should I work each body part?

    I guess what demotivates me is I can't imagine my body actually looking stronger since I've been a twig my whole life, like is it even possible? Especially with this at home routine? Going to the gym isn't an option for me but I feel like I'll never notice results until I go so what's the point.

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    How to know if I'm eating enough?

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 06:45 PM PDT

    So I've been following the RR since January. I've been making good progress from where I started. Couldn't do any pull-ups at first but my max is 6 now. Long term goal is 20 reps in a set, seems arbitrary but I think it's a nice goal. Making steady progress with other progressions too...

    So I've been eating ~2300 calories a day, I'm 21m, 175cm and 65kgs. Probably around 17-18% bf when I started. I get at least 100g of protein a day, other than that I eat whatever. Should I up my calorie intake? I'm not sure how much I should be eating for my goals. I've noticed some physique changes but not too much. Postures definitely improved though. My main goal right now is getting strong.

    Thanks for any advice!!

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    38 yrs old, trying to get better

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 08:45 PM PDT

    Hi all,

    I'm 38 years old and 95kg. I have been training fairly consistently for about 15-20 years, mostly with barbells and kettlebells - although I never got massively big/strong.

    The last couple of years my focus has been on bodyweight calisthenics.

    My basic problem is that I'm not progressing, I'm stuck doing the same stuff every week, not sure what to do next. My chin up strength has completely stalled (7-8 reps), and I'm not really sure how to introduce more advanced movements like front leavers, RTO variations and handstand progressions.

    My average week looks like this

    Day 1 - cycle commute (30 miles)

    Day 2 (push / pull A1/A2 alternating sets)

    4x8 Pull ups / 4x8 Ring dips

    4x12 Inverted rows / 4x12 Ring push ups

    4x12 dumbell lateral raise / 4x12 Barbell curls (sorry!)

    Day 3

    4x8kettlebell front squat (2x24kg) / 4x10 Hanging leg raise

    4x8 KB Bulgarian split squat (2x20kg ) / 4xF L-sit holds (currently hitting 20 seconds)

    Day 4 - Cycle commute (30 miles)

    Day 5 (push / pull)

    4x8 chin ups (rings) / 4x8 kettlbell should press (24kg) or BW pike push-ups (on bars, feet elevated)

    4x12 Dips (parallel bars) / 4x8 Inverted rows (rings)

    4x12 push ups / 4x12 lateral side raise (dumbells)

    Day 6 (legs)

    4x8 double kettlebell front squat (2x24kg) / 4x10 hanging leg raise

    4x8 deadlifts (100kg using hex bar) / 4x50M farmers carries (2x20kg plates)

    (Always warm up with overhead squats, face pulls, push ups, shoulder dislocates and some mobility stuff)

    I carry a fair amount of muscle, but also bodyfat. I have no idea what my BF % is, but definitely carry too much bellyfat which I think is holding back my progression.

    So can anyone recommend a good program for moderately strong beginner who needs to cut some weight, or have any general tips on how I can introduce more advanced movements, progression, within my current program?

    Thanks

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    Can someone help me clean up my routine?

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 01:26 PM PDT

    [Age 22, 150 pound male, athletic build not new to workout out but I'm trying to take it more serious and get my weight more around 200] I'm getting back into workout out and I was wondering if i'm doing too much or too little? There's so many workouts out there So i try to incorporate 2 of the main 5 compound lifts every time I'm in the gym.

    What i'm really worried about are the accessory lifts though, am I missing anything? Will my arms grow with only one day fully focusing on them? Am i doing anything that's redundant? I'm looking for general Size + Strength. (I understand the diet part about it like calorie surplus and everything but if you guys got any tips for that I'll take it too)

    4x10 Monday - Squats, Overhead Press, Lunges, Leg Press, leg curls, calf raises, leg extension

    4x10 Tuesday - Close Grip Bench, Dips, Incline, Flys, Back Extension, DB Press, pull ups

    Wednesday - Full Rest

    1x8 to 5x5 Thursday - Squats, Overhead Press.| 4x10 Front&Lateral raise, bent over raise, Shrugs

    1x8 to 5x5 Friday- Bench, BB Rows, Calf Raises, DB Row, Pull ups, Lat Pull Down

    Descend Pyramid Saturday- Deadlift and then 4x10 chin ups, tricep pull down, DB curls, skull crushers

    Sunday - Core. Planks, ab roller, leg raises, deadbugs.

    (P.S. I'm kinda iffy about my sunday. Not sure if i should do away with that light core work and save my energy for Squats)

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    Any advice on entering stomach-to-wall handstands on parallettes?

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 10:33 AM PDT

    I'm currently steadily working my way towards a proper freestanding handstand and I would say I'm pretty close(ish). So, I've decided I'll add in some handstand training on parallettes. Also, I've been following Steven Low's amazing 'Overcoming Gravity', especially for progressions, and I know I'm close to getting enough strength for stomach-to-wall HSPU (on parallettes).

    However, I've been having some issues getting up into the handstand. For reference, my set of parallettes raise me approximately 11 to 12 inches off the ground, and I don't know how I'm supposed to get as close as I usually do when on the floor. The closest I was able to do was from the bottom of the HSPU position, and that too with a horrendously arched back due to lack of space and still being around two feet from:the wall. I'm slightly scared to try walking backwards while holding the parallettes, since I worry that I have a much greater chance of slipping.

    I would really appreciate some help on this. Sadly, as a 16 year old guy living with his parents, I don't have the funds to buy another set of lower level parallettes, nor do I think my parents are gonna shell out any more cash after what I've already invested in my training equipment. So, I do need to find a solution, and I'mpretty sure this subreddit is the place. Thanks in advance!

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    Is there a way to add extra weight or resistance to pike pushups rather than doing HSPUs?

    Posted: 25 Mar 2021 09:49 AM PDT

    I've been doing calisthenics on my breaks at work as it's the only way I can squeeze in a workout in the day due to time constraints lately. Due to this, I'm not really able to spend extra time doing skill work or setting things up. I just have a doorway pull up bar with some rings attached that I walk over to for pretty much my entire workout.

    My question is: I have a pair of adjustable dumbbells (could do shoulder press, but not trying to set all that up). Could I load some plates into a backpack and somehow do weighted decline ring pike pushups? Or could I use resistance bands to somehow add more resistance like people do with bench and deadlifts?

    Also I have had wrist issues with HSPUs before (even with skill work, my joints are just shit I think lol) and have no parallettes, not much time to do skillwork to prep wrists properly for HSPUs. Let me know if you all have found any personal alternatives or workarounds.

    I'm not necessarily opposed to HSPUs I just know they hurt my wrists before long and I don't have parallettes or time for skill work.

    tl;dr: can I add weight or extra ring or pike pushups without doing HSPUs?

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