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    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-02-20

    Bodyweight Fitness: BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-02-20


    BWF Daily Discussion and Beginner/RR Questions Thread for 2021-02-20

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 09:01 PM PST

    Welcome to the /r/bodyweightfitness daily discussion thread!

    Feel free to post beginner questions or just about anything that's on your mind related to fitness!

    Reminders:

    • Read the FAQ as your question may be answered there already.
    • If you're unsure how to start training, try the BWF Primer Routine, check out our Recommended Routine, or our more skills based routine: Move.
    • Even though the rules are relaxed here, asking for medical advice is still not allowed.

    NEW EXCITING NEW YEAR NEWS:

    • The BWF Primer Routine is being rolled out! You can follow that link to a collection of all the rollout posts. Check them out and follow along at home for an introduction to BWF

    Join our live conversations on Discord! We're also on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter!

    If you'd like to look at previous Discussion threads, click here.

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    Slip Up Saturday (Chaturday): This is the thread to vent, laugh, and humble yourself with this past week's screw ups in training. You can also tell us all about it on our Discord chat!

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:23 AM PST

    Welcome back to the thread where no matter how new or adept you are, we can all take a moment to embrace the shortcomings that come with this journey, finding ways to improve together.

    If you've got a photo or video of yourself face planting from a handstand, doing a muscle-up into a low ceiling, or simply want us to sympathize with your lack of resolve in training consistently, this is the thread for you!

    Be sure you are familiar with the rules, particularly #2: No Medical Advice.


    So how'd you goof this week? Tell us about it! Share your epic fails!

    Click here to view last week's thread

    Click here to view previous Slip Up Saturdays.


    ADDITIONALLY, Saturday is the day we promote our chatroom, which we maintain throughout the week. There, you can find some of our active subscribers lounging around ready to provide real-time answers to your burning questions, or make friends with a common interest in bodyweight fitness! Follow the instructions below to get started:

    Step One: Click on this link to join us on Discord. Register for an account if you don't already have one!

    Step Two: Say hi, bullshit with us, or ask any questions you like and tell us how much you deadlift.

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    Fellas who have gotten a little lazy with core training, here's a great way to find some motivation

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 04:57 PM PST

    Go to the bathroom and shave your stomach. I went and shaved it after my shower, and I'll just say that I'm halfway tempted to glue the hair back on.

    I'm sure as hell hitting abs a little bit harder now.

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    Mixing bodyweight training and weightlifting?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 06:34 AM PST

    I have access to some weights at home and want to add Ohp, Squats and deadlifts and keep the Rrs Pull Up Dip and Row progression. I'm don't have alot of knowledge about programming, would this be ok?

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    One Handed Handstand Tutorial - 2021 goal anyone?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 04:17 AM PST

    Hey there,

    I'm brand new to this board and super excited to be part of this community. I've always had a soft spot for forums from when I started free running many moons ago!

    So I'm a handbalancing coach here in Bristol, England and I've just made a tutorial on the One Handed Handstand ( Link posted below) that I thought someone on here MIGHT find useful! I'd just thought I'd give a written breakdown in this message of the prerequisites I advice my students to have before starting this journey - I hope you don't mind!

    I've posted the main Tutorial link at the bottom of this thread :)

    FYI: I'm not the infinite source of knowledge for this skill, neither do I claim to be. I'm just a dude who loves teaching handstands, movement and acrobatics. This is simply the way I teach this skill . Loads of other ways of doing it!

    Foundations:

    Right, people - you need a handstand! I only had a crappy 10 second handstand when I started to learn the OA and it took me YEARS - I also didn't have a coach which made it all a lot harder. A 30 second - 1 minute STRAIGHT handstand is going to make this skill a lot easier to achieve.

    A Few Cues:

    • Use your Hands to balance, a little from the elbow and none from the shoulder. Balancing from the shoulder will result in a habit that is REALLY hard to break - I know this from experience!
    • Use your hands, of course - it's a handstand BUT if you hand is supper erratic and relying on macro (big) corrections then this will cause the entire handstand to be as erratic. The hands the foundation, it it moves a tone so will your handstand.
    • Keep the weight in the same place in your hand, don't let it go on a road trip around you hand or your balance will fall off the face of your hand #flathandtheory.
    • Keep the weight on the INSDIE of your arm.

    TUTORIAL

    Train this skill for as long as possible in the FULL position before resorting to the Straddle position. This will save you a lot of heartache in the future - I go into more of this detail in the video and my dyslexia won't allow me to be as articulate as I'd like ( winning).

    Learn the skill in this order, mate.

    1. FULL WEIGHT TRANSFERS - don't take your hand off the floor...AT ALL! Build up to 5-10 Sets of 10 Seconds before going to the next stage.
    2. FINGER TIP SUPPORT - build up from 5 fingers to 1 finger. Don't break your finger LOL - build up to 10 Sets of 10 Seconds before moving onto the next stage.
    3. 1 SECOND SHAPE - release your arm for 1 second maintaining the box shape. Only one second. Don't get greedy mate. This drill is for teaching the correct release and should position. That's all
    4. CHAIR SUPPORT - doesn't have to be a chair, can be a table or your nan. I don't have a nan anymore. Use the desired surface to place your none- balancing arm on to build endurance in your balancing arm.
    5. 1-5 - Same as 1 Second shape but trying to go up to 5 seconds consecutively. If you go wrong, you start again. This is a fantastic drill for building a strong consistent OA
    6. HOLDS FOR TIME - Trying to build up from 5-10 Seconds, allowing yourself to go for as long as you can.

    Training should be 6 Days a week. No messing around. No phones. No juggling. Just do the handstand and GIT OUT ME FACE Mviii!

    ESTIMATIONS

    I believe to get a one arm it will take on average 1-2 years to get a 5-10 Second OA. I've had students do it in 7-10 months but it depends on the commitment to the process. I believe most people with a average handstand will follow this patten:

    Handstand to Weight Transfers - 1 Week

    Weight Transfers to Finger Tips - 1-3 Weeks

    Finger Tips - 1 Second Shape - 3-6 Months

    1 Second Shape - Chair support - 1-3 Weeks

    Chair Support -1-5 - 10 - 12 Months

    Holds For Time - 12- 24 Months

    I go into a lot more detail in the video below, I hope this and the video helps! Would love to hear where you're currently at with your handstand training!

    ONE ARM TUTORIAL - YOUTUBE

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    How do you know when you should go up in weight and how much?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 09:36 AM PST

    So, I'm kinda new to weightlifting (running is my area), dumbbells in specific for now. I've had the same set of 15lb weights for years. On a good day, it takes me about 100 curls to start feeling really strained, maybe 125 for muscle failure. On a bad day, aka after a break, subtract 25-30 from each number.

    So I've been thinking about moving to 30lbs. I've seen that people don't usually recommend doubling weight, but considering how long I've been there, I would assume it's acceptable.

    I put both 15lb dumbbells in one hand and did about 3-4 curls. I loved how heavy it felt right away, that I didn't have to stand there for 50+ reps to even start feeling it. But the awkward nature of both of them in my hand hurt my hands, clearly not made to be held in one hand.

    It's impossible to find 30lb dumbbells though, probably because of the pandemic.

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    Getting weaker at dips

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:07 PM PST

    Its been 3 months since the gyms closed where I live but I kept training consistently. Bodyweight training and at least 3-4 times a week. When the gym first closed I was doing 15kg weighted dips for 8-10 reps but now I struggle to do 10 reps of regular dips eventhough I've been training consistently and the more confusing part is that I am getting better at pullups and other back exercises and on the pike press too. Any Idea what may be going on here? Thanks!

    Maybe I should mention that it took me a while to feel my chest well in the gym and to get it to grow significantly.

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    PULLUPS: Resting on deadhang while doing a max set

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 10:37 AM PST

    Hi, I was just wondering how do you all proceed when trying to go for max rep pullups in one set.
    Would it be beneficial to hang rest for a few seconds sometime during the set, if yes when do you guys do it (according to your maxrep).

    Personnally my current max is 28 and I usually do 20 in a row, rest 2-3sec then do 3 by 3 and then 1 by 1 till failure.

    I find that going all the way to failure allows for less rep.

    Is there a better way to do this ? I actually think this is effective because forearms and biceps give out first so it gives them time to recover a bit for those extra reps.

    Curious to know if there's people who do the same as me or differently.

    Cheers !

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    Any advice for chest to bar pullups?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 10:01 AM PST

    Hey Folks,

    So my chin-ups are strong and reps are from dead-hang to chest to bar, yet I just can't close those last few inches when doing pullups. Pullups are currently 3 sets of 8-10 every other day and my chin clears the bar each rep. Some ideas I've had to build up to the full ROM:

    • low reps of weighted pullups to build explosiveness every other workout
    • form work (perhaps I'm not engaging my scapular enough, though I wouldn't know where to start to improve this)
    • mobility work
    • Patience. I've only been doing pullups for a few months so maybe I just need to let it come naturally...

    I'd appreciate any advice on what you found most efficient to get the chest to bar pull-up.

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    Is it possible to work my core with just the pull-push movements?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 11:44 AM PST

    So this last week I was a little bit short of time so I decided not to do the core triplet (although I did the rest of the routine as stated as it is). I was expecting my abs to be a bit soft compare to the rest of my body but it surprise me the fact that are as hard as when I work them. So is it possible to work it this way? Even though I'll work them back this week as usual, now im curious about it.

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    how to split push and pull effectively with homegym

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 04:04 AM PST

    Hey guys,

    Since (all) of the lockdowns, I have ordered myself a great pull-up bar completed with some wooden rings.

    So far I've been doing a full day of pull-ups in all shapes and forms and sometimes alternating it with ring parallel dips and some handstand pushups. I'd love to split my upper body into an alternating workout so I can do it more without taking a break for 2 days after such a day (in which I do core and leg workouts).

    does anyone have any suggestions to make a nice alternate push-pull (or other split) workout that I can do with my equipment. I also have 10kg kettlebells and a poledancepole (gf's)

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    Fitness is body modification/ fat phobia discussion

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:30 PM PST

    So I saw this tweet that said "if I have to go to the gym for my body to look a certain way, then that's not how my body is naturally supposed to look". They also state "there are people with "thin/gym" bodies who maintain that shape without any specific diet or exercise regimen. Why? Because that's the shape their body is NATURALLY designed to hold" "thinness is not the default body shape, there is no default body. Bodies come in all shapes and sizes. Fatness is natural. Even if it wasn't, fat bodies still deserve respect." Of course fat bodies deserve respect. This is true. Then another person entered the conversation and said "Fitness is a form of body modification and I will always engage it as such. Folk are not being honest because of fatphobia and the moral postering attached to working out" "You are doing workouts developed through the decades by one of the most extreme forms of body modification processes that exist (body building)" "Literally people developing technology (fitness machines & equipment) & technique on figuring out if I move like X then the the physical outcome is Y. How could y'all listen to the science of workout out & see that as anything but body modification?" "This narrative that people change their aesthetics because of health is such a lie. Now if you are doing fitness mainly for function (& your training is specific to that function, then sure, there's a bit of a health element)" "But having a big butt? Being at a 10% body fat? Having giant muscles to sit behind a desk and send emails?"

    I see what both people are trying to say, but ultimately I have to say this argument is very flawed. Thoughts?

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    Extremely overwhelmed with RR

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 10:03 PM PST

    Recently I have been looking to improve my fitness and build a bit of muscle so that I can improve in sports and just general health. I'm relatively tall and a bit 'skinny fat' and was looking for a routine, however the recommended routine seems very complex to me as I've read it. I also don't have a chin up bar, rings or a place for dips which has also made it more difficult for me to follow along. The routine sounds good, but I'm unable to do a lot of exercises and I don't know what alternatives to use.

    I know I'm just ranting but I feel a bit lost and discouraged as I'm struggling to understand the exercises and the form required as well as my lack of equipment. I really want to use a routine I can do at home as I don't want to pay for a gym membership and I like the idea of having a lean yet muscular physique as it would be good for sports like basketball.

    Anyways, any advice would be great as I really do want to use bodyweight fitness to improve myself.

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    Time required for L-Sit mastery?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:14 PM PST

    How long do I have to hold the L-Sit in order to say I mastered it?

    Currently, I can hold it for 20 seconds before I start vibrating like crazy.

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    People that only train heavy Weighted dips and pull ups how many reps of bw can you do?

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 03:23 PM PST

    When i say heavy I mean 5 reps and under, im just curious.

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    36-inch vertical jump at 19M 5ft 6

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 08:23 AM PST

    So i just saw a post with a guy saying he could do a 10 inch vertical jump and I thought to myself that unless I'm blessed with some Hercules genes I'm doing something wrong so can anyone tell me the proper way to do a vertical jump?

    So far how I've been doing it is running a few metres then jumping with my knees tucked and hands not touching the box. I think my mistake is that i tuck my knees which gives me the false impression of jumping higher but idk.

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    PPL, rows & pull-ups on the same day or alternate?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:05 PM PST

    I'm doing a PPL split and my main pulling exercises are inverted tucked ring rows and pull-ups.

    I've been doing the split a couple of weeks now and I'm wondering if I should keep doing them on the same day or if I should alternate one day doing only rows and the other day only pull-ups but equate the weekly volume.

    Would it make any difference?

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    A moving bar pullup

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 05:51 AM PST

    I dont know if the subject's clear but but what I'm trying to ask is whether i can do a pull up from a hanging rod(rod that's not fixed into a wall or not stationary ) and will it be more effective since more muscles involved in stabilizing the body.

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    How long have you been doing calisthenics?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 11:39 AM PST

    The title says it all

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    Do you Protract your scapula at the bottom of Inverted Rows (Rings)?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 12:08 AM PST

    I'm trying to figure out if you guys are doing this, or do you keep your scapula tight throughout.

    I usually protract it during horizontal rows at the cable machine.. but I can see myself using only my arms on inverted rows which I'd like to avoid. Using rings for the first time today, was pretty cool and intense!

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    Sore muscles and breaks between sessions

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 10:47 PM PST

    Hello there, I just started doing the RR three days ago. My muscles are still pretty sore today and I wonder if it's a good idea to do another session. Should I wait till my muscles feel good again?

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    Balancing a sport and BWF

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 07:14 AM PST

    I am a swimmer and we do weight and dryland sessions about 4 times a week. I am thinking of starting the RR to improve my bodyweight fitness. Will adding in the RR on top of weight sessions negatively impact my swimming?

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    Is going up in reps with ring pushups a viable progression?

    Posted: 19 Feb 2021 08:03 PM PST

    I hit 3x8 with Ring pushups but can't do rto ring pushups so, my plan is to do 3x8-10 for ring pushups because a harder variation like elevated or wide, I can't hit 3x5 so I'm planning on doing that alongside pushup rto support holds.

    Please leave any advice for progressing with ring pushups or if I should follow another route like one arm pushups etc. thanks!

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    10 inch vertical jump at 17 and 5ft8

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 06:32 AM PST

    I've never been athletic at all in my life and the summer of 2019 is when I started doing any training and this was for bodybuilding and today I tested my vertical and got an embarrassing 10 inches and I was wondering how can I improve this number in the most effective way

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    Wall mounted vs Doorway vs Power Rack vs Tower station pull up bar. Out of the 4 different kinds, which would you mainly prefer for pull ups and why?

    Posted: 20 Feb 2021 02:43 AM PST

    I currently have a mounted pull up bar with neutral handles and its work's pretty great as it is very sturdy. I have yet to test it out weighted as I still consider myself a beginner for my own bodyweight with pull/chin ups. In the future though, once I'm able to move out to another place I may most likely be sticking with a power rack incase the mounted one I have will eventually wear out or not. Preferably a tall power rack that also has neutral grips too.

    Which type of pull up station would you prefer the most? A wall mounted, a doorway, power rack, or a Tower station?

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